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Allow me the presumption of cutting to the chase.

You are not willing to or prepared to accept that the science is settled on Animal Agriculture being utterly unsustainable. That Animal Agriculture is a huge contributor to Greenhouse Gas production, is the largest spoiler of fresh water, and the largest culprit to deforestation.

The ethical consideration and morality of killing another living being to satisfy selfish desires is not a part of the equation.

So, if beings from somewhere in the Universe, beings that consider themselves superior to human beings, find Earth and visit here with the intention of satisfying their hunger with humans, you are okay with the sock being on the other shoe.

The last film I viewed to speak to this whole human eating issue was "They're Trying To Kill Us" . . . . ought to be required viewing for every adult.

https://www.theyretryingtokillus.com

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You wouldn’t survive five minutes in an actual debate.

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There's not really anything to "debate".

The ONLY reason you eat meat is to satisfy your selfish desires.

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I watched the clip. Thank you for posting this! I donated about 12 vegan cookbooks to my local libraries, one called Afro-Vegan that discusses the concept of food justice. Very important film.

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There is a small handful of films that provide a wealth of information about humans and their proclivity for unsustainable practices.

Ice On Fire

Cowspiracy

What The Health

They're Trying To Kill Us

The Age Of Consequences

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I’ve seen part of Cowspiracy, saw all of Chris Hedges’ interview about which should still be available free on YouTube. Being vegan for so long I always look at films relating to the subject and protecting the environment, thanks for mentioning them here.

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One of the scenes in that movie (They're Trying To Kill Us) features a octogenarian hog farmer. He's quite comfortable and candid about his "trade". I'll paraphrase his spoken thoughts:

I used to kill people when I was a tobacco farmer, now I'm killing people farming hogs.

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Wow to say the least.

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I appreciate you adding your comment to this exchange Freeman. Hope you’ll check out my comment on the work of Animal Rebellion on Chris’ latest article and look at their recent YouTube video.

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You were more tactful than I was responding to Hart who I was having a frustrating discussion. I still can’t leave well enough alone, my latest online discussion ended up bad, but I think you got across your ideas well when discussing climate and animal farming. It’s still shocking to me what people will say just like the hog farmer you mentioned.

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Yeah, wrt that?

Da Nile isn't just a river in Egypt. ;-)

I have no investment in 'winning' a contest with someone making up definitions, rules, and alternate realities void of science and fact.

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I thought that there was a chance with the guy named Hart but he proved to have nothing but denial.

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Between his SubStack and all he had to say along with his posturing; my best guess is that he is a professional industry troll, either with Ag, Food, Big Oil, or a Lobbyist that works for all of the above and more.

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Sounds reasonable.

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