I consider it highly possible Trump’s assault was faked. My sense of Trump is that he’s truly a coward. He would have crumpled in the face of a real threat. Whereas Biden wouldn’t have known it was happening.
I consider it highly possible Trump’s assault was faked. My sense of Trump is that he’s truly a coward. He would have crumpled in the face of a real threat. Whereas Biden wouldn’t have known it was happening.
There was an expose' maybe 15 or 20 years ago by 60 Minutes about the evangelical Christian movement and its massive influence on the U.S. Congress. In particular, the show revealed how these shadowy, conservative Christian groups ingratiate themselves with like-minded reps and senators through their obscure National Prayer Breakfast.
A seemingly benign gathering of the faithful, this hugely influential "breakfast" is little more than a convention of far right Christian nationalists ( I call it Christ Con) gathering to glad hand, back slap, and conspire with the far right D.C. power brokers to have their dream of a radical Christian agenda come true.
It's through these congressional brothers-in-arms (not to mention the six members of the SCOTUS that are hard-core, anti-abortion Catholics) that these far right radicals have pushed their extremist white power and Christian agenda, which has been raising its ugly head for years now, and seems to be reaching a feverishly dangerous peak as we head into November.
I was curious if the groups you mentioned are aligned with the far-right Christian
groups I referred to above? I know that 60 Minutes show from years back scared and angered me and my fears have been confirmed with the non-stop push by the far right to codify Christianity as America's only true religion, with the Bible its primary "legal" reference.
American is on the brink of that scenario being fully realized should Trump and the Republicans ever gain all levers of power, which they may well do in November. It's extreme enough for this unrepentant atheist to say God help us.
The Council for National Policy (CNP) is a secretive right-wing nationalist group that was formed in the early 1980s to counter the purported dominance of “liberal” groups like the Council on Foreign Relations.[1] CNP members helped spearhead the emergence of the modern conservative movement (sometimes referred to as the “New Right”).
Although it rarely receives public attention, the group remains an important element of U.S. right-wing activism and is regularly courted by conservative politicians, religious leaders, and activists. The invitation-only group sponsors closed conferences and seminars for “national leaders in the fields of business, government, religion and academia to explore national policy alternatives.”[2]
A recent indication of its efforts to shape the conservative political landscape has been its activities related to the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. TheNational Journal reported: “Convinced that Republicans nominated a ‘moderate’ in the past two presidential elections because the conservative vote was splintered—and certain that John McCain and Mitt Romney lost in November because the GOP base didn't turn out—this clutch of right-wing activists wants desperately to prevent a third act.”[3]
During a May 2015 meeting, several prospective presidential candidates spoke, including Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Marco Rubio (R-FL), Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, and former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina. According to attendees, Ted Cruz appeared to have the biggest impact. "Cruz blew everyone else out of the water. He made the best case, I think, for conservative leaders and organizations to think strategically about working together to help propel a conservative candidate into contention,” opined one attendee.[4]
I also give very serious consideration to the possibility that some Trump-supporting MAGA nut, meaning any of them, could have done this in hopes of blaming the left and inciting violence against the them.. Literally every possibility, no matter how crazy, is on the table with the aptly named Deplorables.
The labels of the various and sundry are becoming increasingly inaccurate. Currently I feel as if Liberals are as deplorable as Deplorables. Both major parties have been subsumed by the oligarchs resulting in the singular “corporatists”. While the Democratic label of “Progressive” (which I happen to actually be) has ceased, for the Democrats, to be meaningful. Great change is rumbling beneath us. I hope that soon the battle lines will be clearly drawn: The People vs The Very Wealthy Parasites.
In the early '70s, I was trained by people who'd been (real) leftist union organizers in the '30s. They told me: "liberals are the ones who leave the room when the fight starts." Exactly what happened. See my long comment for details.
The mainstream Dem leaders are as corrupt as the Republicans, but I think the rank and file of the right have worked overtime to earn the deplorables label and it applies in spades in my mind. How many batshit conspiracies of the Trump era and even before originated on the left? I can't think of a single one.
Meanwhile, MAGA lamebrains cook up unhinged conspiracies based on absurd lies and serves them up as indisputable facts, which the cult gobbles up like life-sustaining manna. In addition, virtually all of the rhetoric of violence, as well as the actual violence in the Trump era, has come from the right, and we've been seeing the proof of that idiocy for years.
I feel where you're coming from and agree to an extent. But I think it's no contest between the cult and the left as to which side is the more odious of the two. Trump Nation Deplorables: the original and still the bet.
The Democrats have supported the genocide is Gaza. That’s extremely unhinged. There are many issues tangled in our current politics. Including major economic issues. Poverty and low wages are endemic in this country. This is a crime, and it can drive people crazy.
Yes they have, and that's beyond deplorable. I totally agree with your entire post. But those aren't conspiracy
theories. I'm referri g to just dumb ass stuff the right creates and spreads. I asked in an earlier post how much of that crap originated on the left, and I said I couldn't think of a single one. But yeah, I missed a big one: Trump's a Russian asset or even puppet of Putin, or some such nonsense. Russiagate...Jesus. Ok, Ok, I missed a couple. But, again, on the whole, the right has a virtual patent on unhinged, unproven claims.
We are not a two party system. We’re an oligarchy. The wealthy use the media to manipulate and split people apart, to make solidarity extremely difficult.
For 28 years, I was a blue collar union activist and local pol campaign mgr. I fought the neolib elite that usurped the D party; they dumped the New Deal, abandoned labor, passed finance deregulation, and signed profoundly undemocratic treaties like NAFTA and the WTO.
They did for displaced Rust Belt workers (now suffering deaths of despair) same as they did to the Wall Street vultures of 2008: NOTHING!
The D party only represents the admin and professional 10-20%. Same types as the well paid bureaucrats who make oligarchies and dictatorships possible by keeping them running. We lessers, the majority working class, are quite aware that HRC's "basket of deplorables" includes all of us. A perverse form of solidarity.
We humans are finally bumping up against our environmental limits. The wealthy are really full on parasites. We can no longer afford their very expensive bullshit. Democracy is the best system, in my opinion, for creating consensus and dealing realistically and sensitively with complex environmental and social issues as well as prioritizing justice as foundational to governance. Capitalism prioritizes profit over everything. Everything. Hoarding is a mental illness, not the basis of a successful society.
The 1%ers, the biz Rs, and the lapdog D bureaucrats are certain they'll survive whatever happens. They think they can buy everything.
Just before the 1999 WTO, (huge demonstrations against which now known as "The Battle of Seattle") there were teach-ins at the U of WA. A prof of biz econ claimed "The Market" would solve all problems, including water shortages. Because in a desert, water is more valuable than diamonds, thus conserved. During the Q & A afterward, I asked if that meant conditions must deteriorate to desert before the model would work. He turned bright red and told me I didn't know what I was talking about. On the ferry home, alt. economist David Korten told me that's how you know you have them--the deflection and anger.
I'd bet nothing effective will be done. Official excuse that it would cost too much, harm the economy. Real reason--the elite considers it unnecessary. Their econ theory defines away devastation of communities and environments as externalities, therefore unimportant. And as the fittest, the superior, the winners, they deserve their lavish lifestyles.
It looks more and more as if Kim Stanley Robinson's eco sci-fi 2020 book, //The Ministry of the Future,// is not fiction but an accurate prediction. Not only of what rising temps will do, but how monstrous yachts and private planes are, shall we say, discouraged.
I consider it highly possible Trump’s assault was faked. My sense of Trump is that he’s truly a coward. He would have crumpled in the face of a real threat. Whereas Biden wouldn’t have known it was happening.
I joked to a friend that the whole thing was probably a deranged stunt by Trump himself. But I was joking only a little.
It is hard to know; if we ever will know.
Surely this makes Trump a figure more cast as a victim first of lawfare then of an 'assassination attempt'.
One must remember that Trump is a useful idiot for a theocratic fascist movement worldwide.
What is worthy to note is that there is little discussion of the Council for National Policy and nothing but coverage of the Heritage Foundation.
The CNP was secretive until its member list was revealed I believe in 2016.
They are the true architects of Trump's policies.
But not a word about them.
They remain in the shadows.
Their members consist of everyone from Ginni Thomas to Tucker Carlson as well as dignitaries from around the fascist global movement.
The Council on Foreign Relations develops the concepts and Heritage provides the installation plans.
Find out more about the Council on Foreign relations, their member lists as we have them.
They are the true theocrats that founded the Christian fascist movement back in the 1980's under Reagan.
There was an expose' maybe 15 or 20 years ago by 60 Minutes about the evangelical Christian movement and its massive influence on the U.S. Congress. In particular, the show revealed how these shadowy, conservative Christian groups ingratiate themselves with like-minded reps and senators through their obscure National Prayer Breakfast.
A seemingly benign gathering of the faithful, this hugely influential "breakfast" is little more than a convention of far right Christian nationalists ( I call it Christ Con) gathering to glad hand, back slap, and conspire with the far right D.C. power brokers to have their dream of a radical Christian agenda come true.
It's through these congressional brothers-in-arms (not to mention the six members of the SCOTUS that are hard-core, anti-abortion Catholics) that these far right radicals have pushed their extremist white power and Christian agenda, which has been raising its ugly head for years now, and seems to be reaching a feverishly dangerous peak as we head into November.
I was curious if the groups you mentioned are aligned with the far-right Christian
groups I referred to above? I know that 60 Minutes show from years back scared and angered me and my fears have been confirmed with the non-stop push by the far right to codify Christianity as America's only true religion, with the Bible its primary "legal" reference.
American is on the brink of that scenario being fully realized should Trump and the Republicans ever gain all levers of power, which they may well do in November. It's extreme enough for this unrepentant atheist to say God help us.
Council for National Policy
last updated: June 15, 2015
The Council for National Policy (CNP) is a secretive right-wing nationalist group that was formed in the early 1980s to counter the purported dominance of “liberal” groups like the Council on Foreign Relations.[1] CNP members helped spearhead the emergence of the modern conservative movement (sometimes referred to as the “New Right”).
Although it rarely receives public attention, the group remains an important element of U.S. right-wing activism and is regularly courted by conservative politicians, religious leaders, and activists. The invitation-only group sponsors closed conferences and seminars for “national leaders in the fields of business, government, religion and academia to explore national policy alternatives.”[2]
A recent indication of its efforts to shape the conservative political landscape has been its activities related to the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. TheNational Journal reported: “Convinced that Republicans nominated a ‘moderate’ in the past two presidential elections because the conservative vote was splintered—and certain that John McCain and Mitt Romney lost in November because the GOP base didn't turn out—this clutch of right-wing activists wants desperately to prevent a third act.”[3]
During a May 2015 meeting, several prospective presidential candidates spoke, including Sens. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Marco Rubio (R-FL), Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, and former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina. According to attendees, Ted Cruz appeared to have the biggest impact. "Cruz blew everyone else out of the water. He made the best case, I think, for conservative leaders and organizations to think strategically about working together to help propel a conservative candidate into contention,” opined one attendee.[4]
https://militarist-monitor.org/profile/council_for_national_policy/
I meant Council on National Policy, not Foreign relations. My error.
For more on the Heritage foundation see: https://rightwing.fandom.com/wiki/Heritage_Foundation/source2
For more on the CNP one might start here:
https://www.exposetheenemy.com/
I also give very serious consideration to the possibility that some Trump-supporting MAGA nut, meaning any of them, could have done this in hopes of blaming the left and inciting violence against the them.. Literally every possibility, no matter how crazy, is on the table with the aptly named Deplorables.
The labels of the various and sundry are becoming increasingly inaccurate. Currently I feel as if Liberals are as deplorable as Deplorables. Both major parties have been subsumed by the oligarchs resulting in the singular “corporatists”. While the Democratic label of “Progressive” (which I happen to actually be) has ceased, for the Democrats, to be meaningful. Great change is rumbling beneath us. I hope that soon the battle lines will be clearly drawn: The People vs The Very Wealthy Parasites.
In the early '70s, I was trained by people who'd been (real) leftist union organizers in the '30s. They told me: "liberals are the ones who leave the room when the fight starts." Exactly what happened. See my long comment for details.
“The petty bourgeois is afraid of the class struggle, and does not carry it to its logical conclusion, to its main object.”
– V. I. Lenin
The mainstream Dem leaders are as corrupt as the Republicans, but I think the rank and file of the right have worked overtime to earn the deplorables label and it applies in spades in my mind. How many batshit conspiracies of the Trump era and even before originated on the left? I can't think of a single one.
Meanwhile, MAGA lamebrains cook up unhinged conspiracies based on absurd lies and serves them up as indisputable facts, which the cult gobbles up like life-sustaining manna. In addition, virtually all of the rhetoric of violence, as well as the actual violence in the Trump era, has come from the right, and we've been seeing the proof of that idiocy for years.
I feel where you're coming from and agree to an extent. But I think it's no contest between the cult and the left as to which side is the more odious of the two. Trump Nation Deplorables: the original and still the bet.
The Democrats have supported the genocide is Gaza. That’s extremely unhinged. There are many issues tangled in our current politics. Including major economic issues. Poverty and low wages are endemic in this country. This is a crime, and it can drive people crazy.
Capitalism is a criminal enterprise.
Fundamentally. It requires racism and poverty to exist!
Yes they have, and that's beyond deplorable. I totally agree with your entire post. But those aren't conspiracy
theories. I'm referri g to just dumb ass stuff the right creates and spreads. I asked in an earlier post how much of that crap originated on the left, and I said I couldn't think of a single one. But yeah, I missed a big one: Trump's a Russian asset or even puppet of Putin, or some such nonsense. Russiagate...Jesus. Ok, Ok, I missed a couple. But, again, on the whole, the right has a virtual patent on unhinged, unproven claims.
We are not a two party system. We’re an oligarchy. The wealthy use the media to manipulate and split people apart, to make solidarity extremely difficult.
For 28 years, I was a blue collar union activist and local pol campaign mgr. I fought the neolib elite that usurped the D party; they dumped the New Deal, abandoned labor, passed finance deregulation, and signed profoundly undemocratic treaties like NAFTA and the WTO.
They did for displaced Rust Belt workers (now suffering deaths of despair) same as they did to the Wall Street vultures of 2008: NOTHING!
The D party only represents the admin and professional 10-20%. Same types as the well paid bureaucrats who make oligarchies and dictatorships possible by keeping them running. We lessers, the majority working class, are quite aware that HRC's "basket of deplorables" includes all of us. A perverse form of solidarity.
We humans are finally bumping up against our environmental limits. The wealthy are really full on parasites. We can no longer afford their very expensive bullshit. Democracy is the best system, in my opinion, for creating consensus and dealing realistically and sensitively with complex environmental and social issues as well as prioritizing justice as foundational to governance. Capitalism prioritizes profit over everything. Everything. Hoarding is a mental illness, not the basis of a successful society.
The 1%ers, the biz Rs, and the lapdog D bureaucrats are certain they'll survive whatever happens. They think they can buy everything.
Just before the 1999 WTO, (huge demonstrations against which now known as "The Battle of Seattle") there were teach-ins at the U of WA. A prof of biz econ claimed "The Market" would solve all problems, including water shortages. Because in a desert, water is more valuable than diamonds, thus conserved. During the Q & A afterward, I asked if that meant conditions must deteriorate to desert before the model would work. He turned bright red and told me I didn't know what I was talking about. On the ferry home, alt. economist David Korten told me that's how you know you have them--the deflection and anger.
I'd bet nothing effective will be done. Official excuse that it would cost too much, harm the economy. Real reason--the elite considers it unnecessary. Their econ theory defines away devastation of communities and environments as externalities, therefore unimportant. And as the fittest, the superior, the winners, they deserve their lavish lifestyles.
It looks more and more as if Kim Stanley Robinson's eco sci-fi 2020 book, //The Ministry of the Future,// is not fiction but an accurate prediction. Not only of what rising temps will do, but how monstrous yachts and private planes are, shall we say, discouraged.
They liv in their own rubber room of denial and avoidance.