Ralph Nader joins Chris Hedges to chronicle his life's work fighting corporate power, and provides insight as to how the American public can continue fighting it today.
Been following Hedges, Nader and other marginalized journalists for many years. Never voted R - when I did vote in national elections it was for D - until I realized why they are referred to as the "inauthentic opposition party."
The reaction to my attempts to share the work of real journalists over the years was met with resistance and criticism from people around me, most of those typical democrats = will not listen to any criticism ever - fine with LOTE voting. These same people voted for the genocide party in 2024, and lost - so we get ignorant, power mad, Cohen trained, felon DT.
The time I spent reading marginalized journalists was not much fun. I read them so WE wouldn't end up here.
None of the people that trashed me for trying to "get the word out" has notified me to apologize. I never wanted to be right or make someone wrong. I wanted to not arrive in Fascism.
Thank you for considering historical context and for acknowledging that, as vile as Trump is, this problem did not spring up overnight with him. We need to take a full and honest inventory of how we got here. Appreciate your (and Nader’s) work so much.
As vile as Trump is", not Biden, who pushed every one of our Middle Eastern wars?, Not Biden, vice president in the Obama administration who implemented a coup in Ukraine, and had a pro-Russian Yanukovych high tailing it to Russia? Not Biden who said Putin has got to go revealing the true intent of the Ukrainian war which was to use these young men to bring down Putin, and use them they did, used them until more then 600 thousand were dead. I could go on but that should be enough to offer some perspective.
Feral I think you know all about the special brand of hate bestowed on Trump both during and after his presidency, and often accompanied by lies, which was picked up with his second presidential run and win. He's America's scape goat. No, Biden for all his bad through many decades has never endured the same abuse and someone like Obama has never had to face any real criticism. During his presidency he tries to overthrow Syria and oust Assad by funneling weapons to extremist groups, and people never heard of project Timber Sycamore, and somehow only Clinton Rice and Summer's names come up when you talk about the overthrow of Gaddafi. Even when it comes to Ukraine, yes we implemented a coup, but almost aways Nuland's and her phone call gets the attention and one would think it was her decision. and unlike Trump, Obama didn't send weapons to Ukraine like Trump. Don't tell me they are all treated the same. I remember Trump challenging his birth record, no he's not perfect by any means, but I don't want to turn anyone into a black and white issue.
From the point of view of America's victims, none of that matters. Results matter. Results are all that matter.
FWIW, liberals and democrats made similar excuses for Obama. Yes, he didn't start the War On Iraq, but that war became his war, the day he could have ended it and didn't.
Your point evades me. Obama and Iraq? Iraq was Bush/Cheney's war pushed by Netanyahu and the threat of nuclear weapons. All our middle eastern wars were ultimately to benefit Israel. Netanyahu even provides a list in his book whose name evades me at them moment.
We may just want to start with the lack of media literacy, critical thinking, self delusion and the malleability of the uncritical mind.
The Social and Psychological Roots of Machiavellian Thinking and Sophistic Thought
"For as we have said, the art of the sophist is a money-making art which trades on apparent wisdom, and so sophists aim at apparent proof, for sophistry is an appearance of wisdom without reality." --- (Quoted from Aristotle's On Sophistical Refutations, 171b32-7. Tr. E. S. Forster. Loeb Classical Library Vol. 400 (Harvard, 1955. P. 63)
This is a helpful and highly resonant perspective, thank you. All delusions start with those we hold most closely to ourselves. Once that is clear, we can move outward from there.
Activists of the various '60s-'70s movements were helped by a Democratic Party that had not yet been usurped by neolibs. At the time, progressive Republicans weren't unusual, either. As of the late '70s, the neolib elite dominated the Ds; they dumped the New Deal, abandoned the working class, and by pushing rightward, enabled the Rs to go extreme right. All to make this country and the world safe for multinational corporations and trickle up econopathy.
The theories underpinning the current econ system consist of little more than assertions like Thatcher's "there are no alternatives." There are--Keynesian and New Deal--and they worked! But the heirs of the Robber Barons and their contemporary incarnations absolutely loathe the alternatives.
A very different attitude predominated in the 1930s when the results of the 1929 Crash were so visible and fascism was on the rise. In Oct 1936, FDR gave a rousing speech (it's on YouTube) in which he promises to continue the New Deal. Despite vehement opposition by those for "business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, sectionalism, war profiteering...they are united in their hatred for me, and I welcome their hatred!" He also said these same powerful interests were used to considering government as "a mere appendage to their own affairs...but now we know government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob."
No wonder then the '71 Powell Memo complaining about left over New Dealers and asserting the need for a corporate agenda. It's likely there's a connection between it and why neolibs took over the D party. What's astounding is how so many of the Memo's unsupported assertions have become accepted as truth.
Team D is the political manifestation of the Professional Managerial Class consciousness, with various grievance groups as junior partners. Team R plays a similar role with respect to Local Gentry, with white Evanglicals as sidekicks.
Once you internalize this, everything both Team R and Team D do makes perfect sense.
Karl Rove, Bush's brain said it nicely when he remarked:
“People like you are still living in what we call the reality-based community. You believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality. That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you are studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors, and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
You don't have a bull in a china shop, you have an unpredictable elephant, that can do untold damage to US institutions. However, many were not in good shape to begin with.
There is no question that the legacy media is pandering almost exclusively to the US Establishment. There is hope though. As print media dies out, and online media replaces it, you will have something that is a lot less easy to influence and regulate.
It is an ill wind that doesn't blow some good. Musk, love him or hate him, changed the social media landscape by kicking the spooks off X. Many of my radical FB friends were being constantly gaoled for posting opinions and information that went against The Narrative. Now that sort of punitive action has become a rarity. Musk's takeover of CNN could also well force the Zionists in its rival broadcasters to have to be more truthful.
The growth of individual substacks, full of pertinent information, is also a great addition to the media landscape.
Trump's tariff regime is a sledgehammer, which needs to be pruned back to a small hammer. Before the globalists had tariffs abolished, first world countries had healthy manufacturing sectors, and that meant much large union participation. If Trump could get some sort of balance in his tariff regime, and direct venture capital into manufacturing, there could be a resurgence of Unionism. And with that could come the means to finance alternative mass media.
Here in Australia, the last federal election saw the emergence of independent candidates. People are very aware of the self-serving nature of the two major parties, but media nit picking of our Greens has limited their vote to about 10%, enough to have some policy wins, but not enough to cause a resurgence of the left. A publicly-funded group, Climate 200, with only three broad policies: environment, anti-corruption, and equality, had communities put up candidates in conservative seats. Climate 200 would not back them unless 500 people in a federal seat backed them. These people became the candidates' teams. This threw up candidates, mostly women, of enormous intelligence and integrity. As with the Greens, many had a science background. The major parties are colluding to try to limit their funding, but the independents are definitely changing the political landscape. Let us hope that they grow in number!
I grew up with Ralph Nader as one of the good guys. He was a consumer advocate who warned us about Covair cars and the need for safety belts. He pointed out the malfeasance of corporate America and hung out with the communists and socialists which tainted his persona. I liked him.
Why would hanging out with socialists ‘taint’ the persona of a consumer advocate? Socialism, or at least a thorough understanding of it, should be of interest to anyone trying to help people, as it was for Tolstoy, Shaw, Wilde, Orwell, and Einstein.
I missed that... "Jimmy Dore fiasco"? Jimmy really respects Chris and he did bring him on his show a while ago and it was a really great interview. I felt like Jimmy took Chris out for a couple of beers so that Chris would loosen up and smile, which I believe really showed people the human side of Chris, not so dower, so people could relate more to the important information Chris was speaking about.
Apparently, Hedges' friendship with Dore impaired his judgement and critical thinking. The result was far worse than a "fiasco". I was being generous in light of the Nader interview.
This is a fantastic interview, Chris. Ralph Nader is a powerhouse. When you hear about everything he’s done, the agencies he founded, the books he’s written, the movements he started — all information you had to tease out of him because he would not have mentioned he is the veritable author of our consumer protection era — it’s awesome and humbling, and we all have to think very, very hard about where we would be if we did not have Ralph Nader.
Dissatisfied with the solution. It does not address the fact that Capitalism is ruining our lives and the lives of millions and millions in other countries.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
— William Casey, CIA director, February 1981
"For as we have said, the art of the sophist is a money-making art which trades on apparent wisdom, and so sophists aim at apparent proof, for sophistry is an appearance of wisdom without reality."
(Quoted from Aristotle's On Sophistical Refutations, 171b32-7. Tr. E. S. Forster. Loeb Classical Library Vol. 400 (Harvard, 1955. P. 63)
"Sick are they always; they vomit their bile and call it a newspaper.” - Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra
To see art as resistance, one can look at the amazing work done by John Hartman in Germany in the 30's
"Whoever reads bourgeois newspapers becomes blind and deaf: away with the stultifying bandages!:
I consider Ralph Nader a hero. However, he proposes two conflicting ideas: First, he proposes that the whole system is rotten including the Democrats. I fully agree with that. But then, he talks about how we could have kept the Republicans out of office by getting the Democrats in. This doesn't make any sense. We need to fix the entire system, and Democrats v. Republicans is a distraction. That includes Donald Trump.
He advocates government ownership of some industries, so he's definitely not a pure capitalist. Whatever he is, he's a damn sight better than any one in office. That said, I agree with the rest of your comment.
Ralph is certainly better than the swine in office. But his story, and he fought hard and continues, tells the tale: Capitalism cannot be regulated. The bourgeois capture all the regulators over time
Excellent show! Thank You Ralph and Chris! It’s hard to imagine that there is any hope within the Democratic Party. The crimes that both parties have engaged in, in the Genocide of the Palestinians and the incredibly cynical destruction of Ukraine and its people is beyond the pale. I currently find listening to Democrats, sometimes on Democracy Now, to be nauseating. Unlike Nader I don’t see 20% of Congress as decent human beings. I think it’s more like 3%, maybe. Other than that, I’m truly glad you Gentleman share your wisdom and your words. We need them!
In a moment of absolutely willful naïveté I decided that a Trump presidency might be justified by his attaching himself to the Peace Scare. The chance that the temptation of a Nobel Peace Prize might actually guide a man devoid of morals, to achieve this was intriguing, and not without possibility.
As Glenn Greenwald pointed out, his unpredictability and contrarianism make him interesting to people, such as myself, who would never vote for him due to his support of Zionism. That’s the paradox driving this odd spectacle. I’ll make popcorn.
Good, you pop the corn while I look for change in the couch cushions.
This is not directed at you, but it seems that if Americans prefer violent films, beer and Netflix there won't be a class struggle.
"…The general public is being reduced to where people not only are unable to find out about the truth they also become unable to search for the truth. They are satisfied with deception and trickery that have determined their convictions. They are satisfied with a fictitious reality created by design… – "
At one time the democrats made a more concerted effort to be democratic on many issues, as well as environmental ones. They continue to portray themselves in that vein, but if honesty prevails they cannot. I wish Nader would drop the anti-Trump anti-republican rhetoric, since all it does is create more divisiveness, and perceived as offensive, since it is too often used to belittle rather then inform. On Facebook I've seen it used to define people in terms of their intelligence, and educational background. Interesting that as a teacher in the biological sciences I can attest to the fact the issue of climate change, or environmental issues in general were not a part of the curriculum on any grade level. In the late 1990's they banished that curriculum, and introduced one that does address those issues. Also as a student in biology the issue of ecology was not even under discussion, and I guess that was the case because it didn't create jobs. Fortunately on the masters level I had a professor who offered a whole lot of courses on marine biology that dealt with ecological issues which he highly stressed. Interesting that his doctoral degree was in philosophy.
Been following Hedges, Nader and other marginalized journalists for many years. Never voted R - when I did vote in national elections it was for D - until I realized why they are referred to as the "inauthentic opposition party."
The reaction to my attempts to share the work of real journalists over the years was met with resistance and criticism from people around me, most of those typical democrats = will not listen to any criticism ever - fine with LOTE voting. These same people voted for the genocide party in 2024, and lost - so we get ignorant, power mad, Cohen trained, felon DT.
The time I spent reading marginalized journalists was not much fun. I read them so WE wouldn't end up here.
None of the people that trashed me for trying to "get the word out" has notified me to apologize. I never wanted to be right or make someone wrong. I wanted to not arrive in Fascism.
Welcome to king time.
Thank you for considering historical context and for acknowledging that, as vile as Trump is, this problem did not spring up overnight with him. We need to take a full and honest inventory of how we got here. Appreciate your (and Nader’s) work so much.
As vile as Trump is", not Biden, who pushed every one of our Middle Eastern wars?, Not Biden, vice president in the Obama administration who implemented a coup in Ukraine, and had a pro-Russian Yanukovych high tailing it to Russia? Not Biden who said Putin has got to go revealing the true intent of the Ukrainian war which was to use these young men to bring down Putin, and use them they did, used them until more then 600 thousand were dead. I could go on but that should be enough to offer some perspective.
Biden is loathsome, but he no longer is president.
Feral I think you know all about the special brand of hate bestowed on Trump both during and after his presidency, and often accompanied by lies, which was picked up with his second presidential run and win. He's America's scape goat. No, Biden for all his bad through many decades has never endured the same abuse and someone like Obama has never had to face any real criticism. During his presidency he tries to overthrow Syria and oust Assad by funneling weapons to extremist groups, and people never heard of project Timber Sycamore, and somehow only Clinton Rice and Summer's names come up when you talk about the overthrow of Gaddafi. Even when it comes to Ukraine, yes we implemented a coup, but almost aways Nuland's and her phone call gets the attention and one would think it was her decision. and unlike Trump, Obama didn't send weapons to Ukraine like Trump. Don't tell me they are all treated the same. I remember Trump challenging his birth record, no he's not perfect by any means, but I don't want to turn anyone into a black and white issue.
From the point of view of America's victims, none of that matters. Results matter. Results are all that matter.
FWIW, liberals and democrats made similar excuses for Obama. Yes, he didn't start the War On Iraq, but that war became his war, the day he could have ended it and didn't.
Your point evades me. Obama and Iraq? Iraq was Bush/Cheney's war pushed by Netanyahu and the threat of nuclear weapons. All our middle eastern wars were ultimately to benefit Israel. Netanyahu even provides a list in his book whose name evades me at them moment.
Not arguing any of that. But I also am not making excuses. Not for Bush, not for Obama, not for Biden, not for Trump.
That said, Trump is the only one who can do anything about it at the present time. He wants to be president, he can own his deeds.
We may just want to start with the lack of media literacy, critical thinking, self delusion and the malleability of the uncritical mind.
The Social and Psychological Roots of Machiavellian Thinking and Sophistic Thought
"For as we have said, the art of the sophist is a money-making art which trades on apparent wisdom, and so sophists aim at apparent proof, for sophistry is an appearance of wisdom without reality." --- (Quoted from Aristotle's On Sophistical Refutations, 171b32-7. Tr. E. S. Forster. Loeb Classical Library Vol. 400 (Harvard, 1955. P. 63)
https://www.opednews.com/populum/page.php?f=The-Social-and-Psychologic-by-Danny-Weil-Belief_Beliefs_Deception_Delusion-141231-996.html
This is a helpful and highly resonant perspective, thank you. All delusions start with those we hold most closely to ourselves. Once that is clear, we can move outward from there.
A nation of sheep begets a nation of wolves. E. R. Murrow
Activists of the various '60s-'70s movements were helped by a Democratic Party that had not yet been usurped by neolibs. At the time, progressive Republicans weren't unusual, either. As of the late '70s, the neolib elite dominated the Ds; they dumped the New Deal, abandoned the working class, and by pushing rightward, enabled the Rs to go extreme right. All to make this country and the world safe for multinational corporations and trickle up econopathy.
The theories underpinning the current econ system consist of little more than assertions like Thatcher's "there are no alternatives." There are--Keynesian and New Deal--and they worked! But the heirs of the Robber Barons and their contemporary incarnations absolutely loathe the alternatives.
A very different attitude predominated in the 1930s when the results of the 1929 Crash were so visible and fascism was on the rise. In Oct 1936, FDR gave a rousing speech (it's on YouTube) in which he promises to continue the New Deal. Despite vehement opposition by those for "business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, sectionalism, war profiteering...they are united in their hatred for me, and I welcome their hatred!" He also said these same powerful interests were used to considering government as "a mere appendage to their own affairs...but now we know government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob."
No wonder then the '71 Powell Memo complaining about left over New Dealers and asserting the need for a corporate agenda. It's likely there's a connection between it and why neolibs took over the D party. What's astounding is how so many of the Memo's unsupported assertions have become accepted as truth.
Team D is the political manifestation of the Professional Managerial Class consciousness, with various grievance groups as junior partners. Team R plays a similar role with respect to Local Gentry, with white Evanglicals as sidekicks.
Once you internalize this, everything both Team R and Team D do makes perfect sense.
Karl Rove, Bush's brain said it nicely when he remarked:
“People like you are still living in what we call the reality-based community. You believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality. That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you are studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors, and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
Karl Rove
https://www.newsweek.com/national-sleep-well-beast-karl-rove-662307
I do respect Nader very much.
What a terrific interview!
You don't have a bull in a china shop, you have an unpredictable elephant, that can do untold damage to US institutions. However, many were not in good shape to begin with.
There is no question that the legacy media is pandering almost exclusively to the US Establishment. There is hope though. As print media dies out, and online media replaces it, you will have something that is a lot less easy to influence and regulate.
It is an ill wind that doesn't blow some good. Musk, love him or hate him, changed the social media landscape by kicking the spooks off X. Many of my radical FB friends were being constantly gaoled for posting opinions and information that went against The Narrative. Now that sort of punitive action has become a rarity. Musk's takeover of CNN could also well force the Zionists in its rival broadcasters to have to be more truthful.
The growth of individual substacks, full of pertinent information, is also a great addition to the media landscape.
Trump's tariff regime is a sledgehammer, which needs to be pruned back to a small hammer. Before the globalists had tariffs abolished, first world countries had healthy manufacturing sectors, and that meant much large union participation. If Trump could get some sort of balance in his tariff regime, and direct venture capital into manufacturing, there could be a resurgence of Unionism. And with that could come the means to finance alternative mass media.
Here in Australia, the last federal election saw the emergence of independent candidates. People are very aware of the self-serving nature of the two major parties, but media nit picking of our Greens has limited their vote to about 10%, enough to have some policy wins, but not enough to cause a resurgence of the left. A publicly-funded group, Climate 200, with only three broad policies: environment, anti-corruption, and equality, had communities put up candidates in conservative seats. Climate 200 would not back them unless 500 people in a federal seat backed them. These people became the candidates' teams. This threw up candidates, mostly women, of enormous intelligence and integrity. As with the Greens, many had a science background. The major parties are colluding to try to limit their funding, but the independents are definitely changing the political landscape. Let us hope that they grow in number!
I grew up with Ralph Nader as one of the good guys. He was a consumer advocate who warned us about Covair cars and the need for safety belts. He pointed out the malfeasance of corporate America and hung out with the communists and socialists which tainted his persona. I liked him.
Why would hanging out with socialists ‘taint’ the persona of a consumer advocate? Socialism, or at least a thorough understanding of it, should be of interest to anyone trying to help people, as it was for Tolstoy, Shaw, Wilde, Orwell, and Einstein.
This was at the beginning of the anti-war movement in the 60’s when the counter culture movement was anathema to main stream politics.
I was a teenager and rebellious.
Chris - thanks for this. I spent my career in Ralph's path. And paid the price. Perhaps the first step in redemption for the Jimmy Dore fiasco.
Yes, actually I saw the interview and the comments. Thanks.
I missed that... "Jimmy Dore fiasco"? Jimmy really respects Chris and he did bring him on his show a while ago and it was a really great interview. I felt like Jimmy took Chris out for a couple of beers so that Chris would loosen up and smile, which I believe really showed people the human side of Chris, not so dower, so people could relate more to the important information Chris was speaking about.
Apparently, Hedges' friendship with Dore impaired his judgement and critical thinking. The result was far worse than a "fiasco". I was being generous in light of the Nader interview.
I too am unaware of a fiasco, and I closely follow the work of all three of these men. Can you please elaborate?
Watch the Hedges interview by Jimmy Dore:
https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/the-deep-state-and-trump-full-interview
I provided comments on that Substack post if you are interested.
I saw the interview. There was no fiasco. I agree with Glenn Greenwald and Jimmy Dore's position on this, not Chris's.
This is a fantastic interview, Chris. Ralph Nader is a powerhouse. When you hear about everything he’s done, the agencies he founded, the books he’s written, the movements he started — all information you had to tease out of him because he would not have mentioned he is the veritable author of our consumer protection era — it’s awesome and humbling, and we all have to think very, very hard about where we would be if we did not have Ralph Nader.
Dissatisfied with the solution. It does not address the fact that Capitalism is ruining our lives and the lives of millions and millions in other countries.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
— William Casey, CIA director, February 1981
"For as we have said, the art of the sophist is a money-making art which trades on apparent wisdom, and so sophists aim at apparent proof, for sophistry is an appearance of wisdom without reality."
(Quoted from Aristotle's On Sophistical Refutations, 171b32-7. Tr. E. S. Forster. Loeb Classical Library Vol. 400 (Harvard, 1955. P. 63)
"Sick are they always; they vomit their bile and call it a newspaper.” - Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra
To see art as resistance, one can look at the amazing work done by John Hartman in Germany in the 30's
"Whoever reads bourgeois newspapers becomes blind and deaf: away with the stultifying bandages!:
Arbeiter-Illustrierte Zeitung (AIZ) 9. no. 6
https://www.wikiart.org/en/john-heartfield/whoever-reads-bourgeois-newspapers-becomes-blind-and-deaf-away-with-the-stultifying-bandages-1930
I consider Ralph Nader a hero. However, he proposes two conflicting ideas: First, he proposes that the whole system is rotten including the Democrats. I fully agree with that. But then, he talks about how we could have kept the Republicans out of office by getting the Democrats in. This doesn't make any sense. We need to fix the entire system, and Democrats v. Republicans is a distraction. That includes Donald Trump.
He is an FDR democrat who believes that one can regulate a criminal enterprise that is capitalism.
His work is tremendous, his life a tribute to humanity, but the fact it is all being repealed, as all the New Deal has been, proves the point.
Resistance cannot come from either party.
Capitalism can never be regulated it must be destroyed.
He advocates government ownership of some industries, so he's definitely not a pure capitalist. Whatever he is, he's a damn sight better than any one in office. That said, I agree with the rest of your comment.
Ralph is certainly better than the swine in office. But his story, and he fought hard and continues, tells the tale: Capitalism cannot be regulated. The bourgeois capture all the regulators over time
Sorry to break up the 27 club! Butt Ralph Was A Tad Darth Nadarish..... wasn't he?
Excellent show! Thank You Ralph and Chris! It’s hard to imagine that there is any hope within the Democratic Party. The crimes that both parties have engaged in, in the Genocide of the Palestinians and the incredibly cynical destruction of Ukraine and its people is beyond the pale. I currently find listening to Democrats, sometimes on Democracy Now, to be nauseating. Unlike Nader I don’t see 20% of Congress as decent human beings. I think it’s more like 3%, maybe. Other than that, I’m truly glad you Gentleman share your wisdom and your words. We need them!
In a moment of absolutely willful naïveté I decided that a Trump presidency might be justified by his attaching himself to the Peace Scare. The chance that the temptation of a Nobel Peace Prize might actually guide a man devoid of morals, to achieve this was intriguing, and not without possibility.
As Glenn Greenwald pointed out, his unpredictability and contrarianism make him interesting to people, such as myself, who would never vote for him due to his support of Zionism. That’s the paradox driving this odd spectacle. I’ll make popcorn.
Good, you pop the corn while I look for change in the couch cushions.
This is not directed at you, but it seems that if Americans prefer violent films, beer and Netflix there won't be a class struggle.
"…The general public is being reduced to where people not only are unable to find out about the truth they also become unable to search for the truth. They are satisfied with deception and trickery that have determined their convictions. They are satisfied with a fictitious reality created by design… – "
Josef Pieper
At one time the democrats made a more concerted effort to be democratic on many issues, as well as environmental ones. They continue to portray themselves in that vein, but if honesty prevails they cannot. I wish Nader would drop the anti-Trump anti-republican rhetoric, since all it does is create more divisiveness, and perceived as offensive, since it is too often used to belittle rather then inform. On Facebook I've seen it used to define people in terms of their intelligence, and educational background. Interesting that as a teacher in the biological sciences I can attest to the fact the issue of climate change, or environmental issues in general were not a part of the curriculum on any grade level. In the late 1990's they banished that curriculum, and introduced one that does address those issues. Also as a student in biology the issue of ecology was not even under discussion, and I guess that was the case because it didn't create jobs. Fortunately on the masters level I had a professor who offered a whole lot of courses on marine biology that dealt with ecological issues which he highly stressed. Interesting that his doctoral degree was in philosophy.