The coterie of neocons and liberal interventionists who orchestrated two decades of military fiascos in the Middle East and who have never been held to account are now stoking a war with Russia.
You can always leave a message at your nearby gas pump with a message that says, these gas prices courtesy of NATO. Heard the idea, thought it was good. Can always direct readers as well to a news source that isn’t pro-war. Extinction Rebellion and Animal Rebellion in the UK is having a massive street protest right now demanding their government end this fossil fuel madness. We should be doing the same here in the States and rising up against these powers that are funding these wars, polluting the air and water, destroying ecosystems while we have people homeless and hungry. EXTINCTIONREBELLION.US #Endfossilfilth#Willnotbebystanders
Not Jimmy Dore. But Blumenthal, and Joe Lauria of Consortium News, and Aaron Mate, and Lee Camp, And for a collection of other independent news sites, go to Radindiemedia.com. I can't believe anyone listens to or believes mainstream media any more.
Carolyn, I believe the belief in mainstream media is happening less and less, it is essentially dying. The opposition to the mainstream media is happening virtually everywhere.
Even Chris Hedges says that you’re only gonna be successful if you help everybody. Imagine me, being vegan, wouldn’t help or invite people to a protest if they weren’t vegan. It wouldn’t work. And again, Chris points out that people get drawn in to these different fringe groups when the government lets them down.
Let us first review a few of his more revealing quotes:
"I don't think we're going to stop the pandemic and the mutations until everybody gets vaccinated" ... (we can't vax ourselves out of this pandemic - AND HE KNOWS IT!)
BTW, he has refused to comment on or stand with the working class against the illegal and unconstitutional vax mandates and passports
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"Let us stand up and resist so future generations will at least say ‘they tried.’ We cannot do this alone ... together we have a chance" ...
BTW, he has refused to comment on THE GREAT RESET, The World Economic Forum and the book THE FOURTH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION
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In a 2020 interview, he said he told indigenous pipeline protesters to "park your cars in their path, remove the engines and walk away" ...
BTW, he did not even mention the the U.S. and Canadian trucker convoys until a March 2022 interview with Jimmy Dore
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After 2014 speech, he was asked to comment on 9/11 and insulted our collective intelligence by saying "Bush was probably just asleep at the wheel" ...
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But he knows he can maintain his place in the "independent media" food chain by:
1) ripping on AOC
2) talking about Assange
3) talking about Snowden
4) talking about Ukraine
That's all he has to do, that's it!
His work with prison inmates is laudable, but not nearly significant enough to offset the effects of his selective silence on these issues ... his avid "swear-by" followers comport themselves as cult members ... Chris can do no wrong and they can find no fault ... for the same reason they all listen to NPR, they listen to Chris for no other reason than it makes them feel cultured ...
One positive aspect of the pandemic was that it really exposed the truly fearless from the fear-driven ...
My list In no particular order ...
- Matt Taibbi
- Glenn Greenwald
- Max Blumenthal
- Dan Cohen
- Kim Iversen
- Aaron Mate
- Abby Martin
- Caitlyn Johnstone
- Jimmy Dore
- Karen Kingston
- Stew Peters
- Chris Smalls
- Jordan Chariton
- Dr Robert Malone
- Dr Peter McCullough
- Dr Michael Yeadon
- Dr VZ Zelenko
- Catherine Austin-Fitts
- Lt. Col. Stuart Sheller
- Former Amazon VP Tim Bray
- Former FDA Officials Philip Krause, Marion Gruber
- Australian Journalist Maria Zeee
The list goes on but Chris is no longer on it ...
Last year Lt. Col. Stuart Sheller took an incredibly courageous stand by demanding our military Generals be accountable for their actions in Afghanistan ... he posted a 5m video here on YT knowing it could result in jail time and the loss of his military benefits ... and only afterward did he tell his wife!
First off, you may not want to get a shot, but your statement that (we can't vax ourselves out of this pandemic - AND HE KNOWS IT!) is not necessarily true. You cannot say total vax won't work because you cannot prove it. If you want to cherry pick the .0000001% who got vaxxed and the bug, stop splitting hairs into a hundred pieces.
I am definitely a science man, and to say that the Vax did not save millions of people from suffering from it is improbable at best.
So i don't get the point except you say mandates are unconstitutional, o.k., but don't tell me i have not been protected by the vax. All my family that got vaxxed did not get covid, some who did not, did. Dead stop.
The Fzr c e o recently admitted what I just said ... I've tried to post the details here on YT and my comments have been blocked for several weeks now - sorry, but I tried ... the data supporting my claims is out there if you look hard enough ...
Seems like some of these more off-narrative substackers, who write wonderful pieces like this one, stay away from pandemic topics. Here’s a great piece on just why the vax won’t save us:
I've said it before and I'll say it again ... the globalists are brilliant! ...
They've been planning this for decades ... I believe the so-called narrative is falling apart because it's all part of the plan ... it's a simple axiom ... the more polarized, the more the science contradicts the narrative, the more divided we become ... it then becomes easier to ID and control dissidents ... and the definition of dissent and the applicable laws are then revised as needed ... and don't under-estimate the role of independent media as a divisive catalyst ... the typical "independent" media figure today is an algo-obsessed creature that only sees SUBS, LIKES and SHARES ... they all dismiss opportunities to unite segments of the working class right and left as a self-destructive practice ... Hedges really nailed it by describing the principles of "primacy of profit" and "primacy of self" as our achilles heel.
He may have. Obviously no matter how different you are in ideology when forming an alliance, you have to be able to agree on certain things for it to work. Where is the info on this? I have never heard Jimmy backtrack on affordable or free healthcare which I am in favor of.
i think Hedges might argue the freedom truckers as akin to occupy, which he found an optimistic movement and that we require more of such movements. I have yet to see any evidence of the truckers as anything other than regular citizens protesting for their rights. Trudeau was way out of line.
I resent the truckers, illegally blocking streets for days, keeping emergency vehicles from being able to do their jobs, destroying the peace of neighborhoods, substantially disrupting the lives of thousands, disrupting commerce and jobs, not for a day or two but weeks and would still be there if it weren't for removing them from their illegal blockage of public facilities.
Four weeks, not two weeks. They were demanding the overthrow of Parliament, to be replaced with one consisting of the Governor General, the Senate, and themselves. Check out their "memorandum of understanding."
They took it down, but here are two articles analyzing it:
The truckers stated goals were to compel Trudeau to: 1) drop the mandates, and 2) abandon the vax passports ... what on earth is wrong with that? ... didn't you know, the liberal wing of the Canadian parliament is controlled by a foreign global power - the World Economic Forum ... aspiring to "overthrow" govt in this case, is actually a very appropriate and understandable goal ...
What you must realize is that the truckers were fighting fire with fire ... the elites do it to us every day in every way possible, the public has been numbed by it and now mindlessly accepts it ...
Carolyn, did you know that you can still get the virus and pass it on even when vaccinated? Also, do you not see compliance as opening the door to being experimented on?
Maybe, but why contribute to the thread being hijacked by comments irrelevant to the thrust of the O.P.? If we allow ourselves to get hijacked by one of the heads of the Hydra that is the culture wars, all that has happened is that we have been conned into arguing among ourselves instead of showing unity & solidarity on the big issues which we agree on.
My wife went out to bar a few weeks ago after we opened up here in Ontario. She was there, mostly unmasked (we have been using N95s since the early days) for about two hours. Two days later she developed cold like symptoms. She then tested positive the next day. Three days later it was the same for me. We both had mild cold-like symptoms for about 3 days. We have both since recovered completely.
Well to start with, most of the mandates were provincial. That seemed to be over their heads.
Not sure what you men by "abandon the use of vax passports." What is a "vax passport?" I have my BC vaccine card, required to eat inside a restaurant. Is that what you mean? If so, it again has nothing to do with Trudeau or the federal government.
The so called 'restrictions' were never anything more than minimally troubling for us. It is more bother and "oppression" to be FORCED to wear pants outside than it is to show someone that you are not a disease vector.
Well I said most people. It doesn’t take everyone to boycott successfully, just enough where consumption drops significantly long enough. You could certainly be an organizer.
In my area, the majority of people have to commute to work. No jobs and the jobs in the bigger city don't pay enough for you to move there if you were so inclined. --- Also, no, you did not say, "most people." You said, "Most states..."
All right most states where most people live have bus service. Why argue? Why not try to do something to improve the situation? Tonight I’m joining the activists at City hall demanding the city create housing instead of more warehouses. I’m not waiting for the other guy to do it. You’ve got internet, you can do something.
I'm not arguing. I'm trying to point out to you that not everyone's situation is the same across 50 states and DC, plus innumerable cities, towns, and bergs. You do what you want. You're doing it for your area only and to feed your own ego, so you can put others down. What you do, in what ever blue hell hole you live in, will not do a damn thing to help out the rest if the country or the world. ESMFAD.
It can. It has happened before and the people in the UK are inspiring and motivating many many people. I’m exercising my constitutional right to speak out in public about the fossil fuel crimes and crimes against farmed animals.
I have never had a car. I don't drive. I have told countless people IRL and online, that they will need to give up driving. I get denial, rage and hate. People tell me, and they believe it, "I cannot live without my car". So called Greens have such a bad addiction and sick dependence on cars, that they actually think they can replace a billion gas cars with a billion battery cars. "Problem solved"
*In 2020, there was a 0.6% decrease in the number of registered cars in the UK
You are aware, of course, that Extinction Rebellion is funded and controlled by George Soros? The entire environmental movement has been hijacked in recent years by the rhetoric of "climate change", with everything now being directed towards the demonisation of carbon dioxide and profiteering via their sinister carbon tax plan.
Do you have any proof of that? I’d like to see that info. Unfortunately, effective organizations like theirs are always demonized as was Julian Assange.I believe it’s obvious we are in a desperate time and for one, large scale animal based agriculture is a huge source of harmful methane endangering the environment as well as a source of monstrous animal cruelty, something I would like to see end.Please share any info such as video on this.
Julian Assange was never bought by NWO agents. He is in a completely different category.
There are many reasons to be against large scale animal agriculture - but methane production? ...that is gaslighting propaganda, pure and simple. IMO.
I don't eat mammalian meat myself, but that is a different rabbit hole...
Large scale agriculture is also destroying the planet.
I agree that there are many, many critical issues, about energy, peak oil, exploitation of resources - all requiring thoughtful debate and creative input.
I just get very, very suspicious when I see complex issues like this, being reduced to slogans: "Stop dirty coal, oil and gas". Because the solutions proposed so far do not seem very convincing (or sustainable).
(Watch Planet of the Humans documentary on YT for a rather depressing but honest look at some of this.)
Anyway, ER: this video has a good critical look at them:
I will look at that video. I will say that this group’s shutting down of McDonald’s meat supply in order to get a plant based burger on the menu was a necessary action and a nonviolent one. They are working on large scale plant based food systems(vegan I mean, some people are now misusing the term plant based) to give people a healthier sustainable diet. I believe like Chris Hedges has said that if your cause is good for everyone, as is more veganism, you have to shut the systems down through nonviolent action when all other methods have failed. I personally don’t see Extinction or Animal Rebellion as being hijacked. As a vegan myself, I educate on an individual basis, but the change is not happening fast enough. More pandemics are on the way if animal Ag is not stopped with their need for overuse of antibiotics and their continual devastation of ecosystems to grow cattle feed so I’m planning to continue my support of these groups. Sorry, it’s exactly like what’s happening to Julian Assange, he’s been demonized to discredit him like Extinction Rebellion is, so the situations in that respect are identical. I think your reply to that comment gives away your position. We are murdering our own future with animal Ag and oil, stealing and destroying Native people’s lands for it with our sick meat based diets packaged in toxic plastic and unless you’ve got a better way I’m sticking with groups that can stop the abuse of big business with corrupt politicians that do their bidding.
You are welcome to your opinion, but your use of emotive language, inappropriate analogies (eg likening this to Julian Assange) and your readiness to dictate other people's food choices (without any evidence base) gives away YOUR position.
So let's leave it there - I don't like fanaticism of any shade, and I don't think it would be productive to proceed any further with this discussion.
I am emotional. I’m sorry if that bothers anybody, I feel as alarmed about this as Greta Thunberg does. It should be a mild typical spring where I live and instead temperatures have been below freezing and it’s been snowing here, in April! Climate change, which doesn’t mean it’s warm year round. I also cannot force veganism on anybody, it will not work, but I will work to see it is not shut out of the food system. And I will give people info that can help people decide for themselves how they want to eat. All the medical research shows it’s the healthiest of all diets providing one isn’t eating just vegan junk food. Here is a video by a medical doctor on veganism: http:://YouTube.be/8f9NAkDQ3Q.Anyone reading can also go to www.PCRM.org for info on it.
Extinction Rebellion are darlings of the MSM & the police treat them with kid gloves,,,, which tells you all you need to know about how "subversive" they actually are.....
Using the "Green Agenda" as a front for NWO, Global Governance or whatever they call themselves these days, is a decades long strategy as well honed as the public health bio security state agenda.
Iain Davis lays out the laborious details of the hijacking of the Commons in its entirety, by the greedy minority who, having raped & pillaged the Natural World for generations, now profess to be the ones to save Mother Earth from the scourge of "Us",,,, that people have swallowed this myth of a destructive humanity, scarcity & overpopulation is evidence of the efficacy of their psy-op.
As Plato once said, “This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.”
"Seizing The Global Commons, 'Green Agenda' is NWO"
In 1941, Burnham (who went on to the OSS & CIA) would publish “The Managerial Revolution: What is Happening in the World”. In it he states:
“Effective class domination and privilege does, it is true, require control over the instruments of production; but this need not be exercised through individual private property rights. It can be done through what might be called corporate rights, possessed not by individuals as such but by institutions: as was the case conspicuously with many societies in which a priestly class was dominant...
“If, in a managerial society, no individuals are to hold comparable property rights, how can any group of individuals constitute a ruling class? The answer is comparatively simple and, as already noted, not without historical analogues. The managers will exercise their control over the instruments of production and gain preference in the distribution of the products, not directly, through property rights vested in them as individuals, but indirectly, through their control of the state which in turn will own and control the instruments of production."
All these Diggers have a stack of brilliantly illuminating & fastidiously researched articles 'under their belt', here are just a handful:
Part 1: "How the Unthinkable Became Thinkable: Eric Lander, Julian Huxley and the Awakening of Sleeping Monsters"
I read 2 of those articles. I don’t promote, nor does Extinction Rebellion from what I’ve seen, having anything to do with Eugenics, supporting Klaus Schwab, the CIA, etc. I support ending fossil fuels to save this earth and the end of animal Agriculture, including large scale fishing and fish farming which obviously creates disease and has decimated 90 percent of the fish in the ocean. I’ll send some videos shortly. Here’s one that describes pretty well why I believe in this cause: https://YouTube.be/DCnLWUSaz9o. For those who haven’t watched, to me this cause is about saving the planet’s species that have jobs to do in their ecosystems who we cannot replace who are on their way to extinction if we do not act on a large scale, and ending their needless pain and suffering. We can help by not buying the products that enable these industries to go on.
I don't doubt that what you say is entirely true, Kelly. But it's not so much about 'promoting' eugenics, anal Schwab or the CIA, it's more about being an unwitting enabler of those lunatics & their vile ideology,,,,, if we're not careful, very careful.
I think people who are concerned for the environment and support the Extinction Rebellion movement do so with the purest of intentions..... but "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" & it is worth considering what other forces are in play that may latch on to & manipulate the good work of Common folk in order to advance their own more nefarious agendas.
I am fairly aligned with the professed aims of environmental movements, even if for different reasons in many instances, but I am also very aware & very wary of those who would seek to hijack, or at least 'nurture' those movements if it helped them achieve their own ends, ends that have been set down 'black upon white' for generations.
I do find it embarrassing & depressing to watch some of the 'actions' of Extinction Rebellion, those that get plenty of "air play" & which target other Common folk rather than the decision makers & power brokers who perpetuate this assault on Mother Earth & humanity in general.
The military is one of the biggest polluters, yet I don't see ER doing much to protest the roll out of yet another bloody & illegal manufactured conflict in Ukraine.
The Big Oil companies know full well what their "product" does,,,, I think Shell produced a short video back in the 70s on the subject of 'Climate', just before we got the "Coming Ice Age" frighteners for a decade. Just as Big Tobacco knew full well the dangers of what they were dealing. So when I see a bunch of folk blocking working people from getting to work, rather than blocking CEOs from getting to their office,,,, I kind of lose faith in their whole effort.
Change doesn't come from turning on your neighbours, it comes from uniting with your neighbours & challenging power. That's why I am suspicious that ER has simply become, unbeknownst to its supporters, a useful 'tool' for the same old exploiters, persecutors & despoilers who just need some photogenic, pseudo protest outfit to "prime" the public into accepting some very dubious solutions (those I referred to in my initial post).
I read your whole comment and I think your concerns are legit, but I think Extinction Rebellion are doing their work the right way. The issue of military and big oil has been covered by environmental activists but as I think you would agree to big media certain subjects are off limits when those companies essentially own the media such as anything involving an anti war stance.
It puts me in mind of similar situations in the 1970s, such as the gender equality & feminism movements, as well as the abortion debate.
All of which, in my opinion, are perfectly valid issues that needed addressing & through which we have made great advances as a society.
However, on the one hand, an essential part of the gender equality & feminist movement was pushing for the recognition of women & work being done predominantly by women on an equal level with their male compatriots, recognising the value of the parenting role & the work of keeping house that many did at that time, perhaps even allocating a financial value to those vocations.
The reality was that women largely "won" the right to be another wage slave & tax cow with salaries falling & household incomes becoming dependent on 2 bread winners where before it was only 1. It has also, irrefutably, become even more of a rarity that a mother (or a father for that matter) would be able to devote themselves full time to the bringing up of children & making/keeping a home, meaning that the "State" has increasingly taken over that role & communities are hurt as a result.
Didn't Jill Stein write in her book that the CIA funded "Ms" magazine when it first came out? Heard Aaron Russo say that in an interview way back. Definitely a curious 'relationship' worthy of consideration if correct.
Edward Bernays (nephew of Freud, pioneer of Public Relations & perception management/propaganda) did a very successful campaign to convince American women to smoke cigarettes. He was working for Big Tobacco to get the non-smoking 50% of the population to become cigarette junkies, but he used "feminism" & liberation as his hook to change people's minds.
""Torches of Freedom" was a phrase used to encourage women's smoking by exploiting women's aspirations for a better life during the early twentieth century first-wave feminism in the United States. Cigarettes were described as symbols of emancipation and equality with men. The term was first used by psychoanalyst A. A. Brill when describing the natural desire for women to smoke and was used by Edward Bernays to encourage women to smoke in public despite social taboos. Bernays hired women to march while smoking their "torches of freedom" in the Easter Sunday Parade of 31 March 1929, which was a significant moment for fighting social barriers for women smokers."
Rest assured, the parade was a stage managed photo op to sell fags, not promote women's emancipation.
Similarly, Planned Parenthood attracted a lot of enthusiastic support from the old eugenicist crowd,,,, wasn't Gates' dad, a card carrying eugenicist, the first 'chair' of PP, or something like that?
That doesn't mean that the subject of abortion is purely a eugenics question, it just means that behind the scenes, perhaps less savoury interlopers help shape & stand to benefit from this shared agenda.
Likewise, those that trade in baby body parts would find common cause with those seeking to open an abortion clinic and I think that, regardless of your beliefs about abortion, those are not the sort of "interested parties" you want as part of that 'industry',,,,, in fact, again regardless of your pro-choice/pro-life bent, I don't think anyone would want abortion clinics to be treated as an "industry" at all.
Yet without digging into all these possibilities, we leave ourselves open to being manipulated & fooled by truly vile interests, ultimately discrediting our own cause through ignorance & naivety.
The "Climate Change" discussion is being moulded into a polemic & dogmatic pseudo religion when it ought to be science, not "THE Science" as handed down from on high, but a purely open, combative & critical debate at all levels.
You simply need to watch Michael Moore's "Planet of the Humans" to see how easily the same old reprobates can hijack an "issue" to continue with their profiteering & despoliation unimpeded.
"Carbon Credits" are a similarly transparent scam when you dig into it,,,, a financial instrument for the banking/investment sector & an excuse for corporations to do fk all but add some rainbows & greenery to their logo & lob a bit of cash at poor countries who aren't raping the planet, in order to "offset" their own malfeasance.
I saw a meme the other week about electric car batteries which suggested this might be yet another "poisoned chalice" offered up as a 'solution' to the perceived problem of petrol cars (I know! not the most reliable source of info, but it did make me wonder).
"To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper.
All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery."
I'd hope that non polluting cars would fast become a reality, but maybe that won't happen under the current system of absolute & unrestrained profiteering by a historically entrenched class of capital owners, who are exploiting patents & intellectual property rights in order to shore up their own monopolies & stifle ingenuity & invention more generally.
I'm not against ER or what they stand for, per say, although like anyone (even those who identify with ER) I'm sure I could quibble over the details. But I just think that perhaps the movement as a whole is ripe for manipulation & a perfect vehicle for facilitating the total theft of the Commons by our greedy minority by way of "solutions" proffered by a sycophantic political/corporate class.
"We've been conditioned to think that only politicians can solve our problems. But at some point, maybe we will wake up and recognize that it was politicians who created our problems."
Dr Ben Carson
I have no doubt that "Climate Change" will also be exploited as a divisive tool in a world addicted to "outrage" & desperate to alleviate the pervasive feeling of demoralisation which afflicts so many of us "worthless eaters".
But the solutions needed will not be found or implemented within the same "system" that created the problems in the first place.
"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it."
Albert Einstein
An all encompassing "Great Awakening", "GreatER Reset" or whatever you want to call it will be necessary,,, to rediscover a Common purpose, a Common potential, ingenuity, entrepreneurialism, a shared approach to "living" on this beautiful planet, with all these beautiful people in such a beautiful natural environment,,,, aided by a rediscovery of our true & uncensored histories.
We have tools at our disposal that no other peoples have had (as far as I know). Global connectivity, peer to peer & 'crowd' support technologies all offer the promise of unleashing human potential like never before.
However, these tools likewise offer our ruling minorities a way to enforce a level of global totalitarianism not even Huxley or Orwell could have imagined. A means to attain those 'ends' which are as old as the hills - "to own everything & be master of us all".
Sadly, the last couple of years of lawfare waged by the State on its people; the levels of censorship & orchestrated propaganda; the push for digital IDs/obedience certificates & the loss of bodily autonomy; Social Credit scores; Central Bank controlled Digital Currencies, etc. all seem to be shepherding us to the absolute worst of outcomes - a total global bio security surveillance state being gleefully cheered on by folk too self absorbed to look beyond their own pet agendas, & too 'lost' in their own grievances to maintain an open mind & an open heart, unable to recognise the shared humanity of us all,,,, even those fkrs who get on our tits sometimes :-))))
Too many "good people" have brought us to the precipice we find ourselves today, with a seeming majority of folk happily unleashing tyranny on their own "deplorable" neighbours based on nothing more than a shitphone 'ping' & some fake science off the TV.
"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing"
The myth of Overpopulation is just a trick by the ruling elitists to get the plebs to hate each other & themselves, to blame their own existence for the devastation of the planet rather than the greedy minority. I've just spent best part of 8 years pottering around the planet & it's mostly empty, and beautiful.
Here's a few more words, 'black upon white', which illustrate the 'genealogy' of our ruling elitists & their hollow institutions:
In 1946, Huxley noted in his vision for UNESCO that:
"...it will be important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with the greatest care and that the public mind is informed of the issues at stake so that much that is now unthinkable may at least become thinkable.”
By the mid-1970s, one of the leading neo-Malthusians of that era, Paul Ehrlich mentored a young protégé named John Holdren and together they produced a stomach-turning manual called Ecoscience in 1977 where the pair wrote:
“Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime- sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all-natural resources, renewable or non-renewable, at least insofar as international implications exist. Thus, the Regime could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but also in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes that cross international boundaries or that discharge into the oceans. The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market. The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.”
In 1991, Club of Rome co-founder Sir Alexander King stated in the “The First Global Revolution” (an assessment of the first 30 years of the Club of Rome) that:
“In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill. In their totality and their interactions these phenomena do constitute a common threat which must be confronted by everyone together.
But in designating these dangers as the enemy, we fall into the trap, which we have already warned readers about, namely mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention in natural processes, and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then is humanity itself.”
So are the people demonstrating against "fossil fuel madness" also demonstrating in favor of going nuclear for power generation? Because without fossil fuels, the only options are nuclear or freezing in the dark.
With all the positive comments it makes me think there will be some widespread messaging on the issue that could result in a big boycott. As long as the message is easily removed it cannot be considered actual vandalism which would be counterproductive.
Hi Mara, I never give my comments even one like. I think it comes from people who agree with Chris Hedges generally. The idea I mentioned I heard from reporter Max Blumenthal with the Grayzone. All I did was repeat it. I really do want a better world for you as well, without needless war and violence.
People are utterly dumbed down. They have been trained by the infantile crap on our media fed to them 24 hrs a day 7 days a week to see nothing, hear nothing and have lost all ability of critical thought.They truly are the proles of George Orwells 1984. The level of lies and anti Russian propaganda we are subjected to currently is beyond anything I witnessed during the Soviet cold war. Humanity is too stupid to exist, and soon will not. Such a pity all the wonderful creatures that have evolved along with us will go as well. Mankind can conceive no greater crime.
"Humanity is too stupid to exist, and soon will not."
I think people are too gullible, not too stupid - it's not exactly the same thing. If you assume "too stupid" then the people themselves are 100% to blame and there is really no solution aside from millions of years of evolution. If you assume "too gullible" then the mainstream media and those who control it bear equal responsibility, and there is the possibility that humanity will eventually "wise up". I prefer the 2nd option because I believe it is more accurate, it offers a path forward and it places the blame where it belongs - with the "leaders" and the media. When there is a crime you can blame the criminal or you can blame the victim and I generally blame the criminal.
In the course of 500 hundred years or so humanity has move from communities of tiny villages with a hundred people where the fools and charlatans (warmongers) could be easily identified and challenged, to "global villages" with hundreds of millions of powerless and voiceless people lead by anonymous and hard to challenge warmongers. I believe people and societies are capable of adapting but I don't know whether it will be in time.
Formal processes like democracy, a free press and free speech/expression are somewhat unnecessary in tiny villages where consensus can be reached, but are required for large nations, and they are part of the process of adaptation of humans grouping into larger communities. Political, media and business "leaders" are undermining those things, and if that leads to the destruction of everyone then clearly those in power are the fools. The truly stupid ones are the ones at the top, the "leaders", so hold those people accountable and the ones who spread their "narratives" which are nothing more than fictional stories meant to mislead.
To not research facts for verification of assertions by the media, or politicians, IS to be stupid, for it is only an idiot that takes a statement at face value.
Most people lack the time, interest or ability to conduct research into the reporting they get from the media, and that research is getting ever more difficult thanks to censorship of the truth (by that same media). Furthermore, for whatever reason people have been conditioned to believe the media - that makes them gullible not stupid.
I believe journalists have a responsibility to report the truth, politicians have a responsibility to represent voters and judges have a responsibility to enforce the laws and constitution, because that's what they are all paid to do. Most people already have a job, they can't also do the jobs of reporters, politicians and judges.
You've chosen to label people as stupid instead of acknowledging widespread corruption in media, politics and the justice system. As I implied in my earlier comment, the people, the media and the leaders bear equal responsibility. In a democracy, the people are ultimately responsible for the state of society, but we don't have a democracy, we have a *representative* democracy and the representatives are not doing their jobs.
The plumbing in my house doesn't leak, and that means the lowly and "stupid" plumber did his job. Meanwhile there is shit coming out of every mainstream media orifice because the media elites are NOT doing their job, so that's where I will focus my attention. Polls show that people have a very low opinion of the media, they know something is wrong but since it can't be fixed with a pipe wrench the Ivy League elites will have to do it. /s If we place our hopes and trust in the Ivy League elites we will surely be doomed, so I place my trust in the people and the "elites" can have my contempt.
The left and liberals have put all their hopes and prayers into the elites so no wonder they have become disillusioned nihilists. Put your faith into democracy and free speech because that`s that`s how good ideas are created, not in the nuclear bunkers of warmonger elites or politically correct dungeons and safe spaces of academia. A plumber with a pipe wrench is probably as likely to fix the media as the Ivy League educated elite who runs and censors it - no chance.
The problems in our society are complicated but censorship will obviously limit the scope of solutions, not expand them. Censorship is the problem not the solution, and the fact that censorship is the ONLY idea that media and political elites can formulate is clear evidence of widespread incompetence on their part.
Most people should, by now, know that mainstream media lies or at least stretches the truth- really, they just lie. Take bucha for example. To adopt the msm narrative at face value is indeed being stupid. I stand my ground. "naive" may work better, but the fact of the matter is that a voter SHOULD expect to invest time in researching facts in order to derive a VALID conclusion of ANY situation. The initiation of world war 3 is kind of a no brainer (that it must be investigated for truth and facts). You stipulate yourself "people are ultimately responsible for the state of society". End of discussion.
You stipulate yourself "people are ultimately responsible for the state of society". End of discussion.
You took half of my sentence and used it out of context, and then declared the end of the discussion. You're entitled to do that, I don't really care. We happen to agree on the important points but disagree on how to solve the problem. My solution is that the media do a better job and your solution is that media viewers do a better job and we are probably both correct. Most disagreements revolve around "how" to solve a problem and not whether or not to solve it. Often problems can be solved in more than one way and sometimes it is better to attempt two solutions at once if they are additive.
I am in total agreement with you about the media bs'ing the public. That's why it's imperative that people examine facts from other, reliable information sources. Corruption (media lies and propaganda) won't go away unless massive riots/protests occur. So where do we go?
I'm frustrated about the situation, and only see a solution in the people. And that is why I am holding THEM accountable. There is no other choice.
You've gone way beyond what my comment concerns. If one does not understand what they are, or aren't supporting politically, then YES, they are being stupid, for their input provides nothing to better improve our circumstances.
Hi Kelly, I have watched 2 generations from the height of the cold War through to now. I have been an activist campaigning against nuclear weapons and global warming most of my life. In the 60s 70s and 80s there was a lot of activism and for a brief period in the 90s with the breakdown of the Soviet union there was hope for a different world. Now there s no debate or very little discussion. I have never in my life experienced the level of lies and propaganda in our main stream media as at present. We are closer to nuclear destruction now than at any time in the past, including the Cuban crisis. The rapidly developing global warming ecological collapse is reaching a point of no return, yet our leaders show utter incompetence and are either cowards or stupid.. I am old tired and disillusioned so I guess that is reflected in my comments. I hope your generation has more success than mine.
I’m glad you commented and now I feel guilty. You worked very hard and got a lot of frustration. I felt the same way for years until about 2010 but my view is through animal activism so my efforts are more narrowly focused. I believe the people much younger than me are going to accomplish more than anybody before them. I’m sorry it’s been such a hardship for you, few in my experience stick with it for long because to be an activist is to live with frustration and ridicule. Hopefully you will be able to see what your work has led to for the better soon. Whatever’s achieved now is due in part by who came before them.
I am really happy about Extinction Rebellion is doing. They are broadcasting live all week on YouTube, getting lots of volunteers. Wish you could watch it if that is of interest to you.
The one word mention of Iran deserves more attention. Precious few Americans understand that the CIA along with the Brits overthrew Irans' democratically elected Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953 to maintain British control of Iran's petroleum. We installed the son of the deposed Shah as our stooge and stole billions of dollars of Iranian money from the worlds financial system. Heck, our men leading the charge was Eisenhower and the Dulles boys. Our point man in Iran was Kermit Roosevelt. Ever since the Iranians took their country back in 79 the US has demonized them. Please note their overthrow of the American Imperialism was bloodless. Finally we got an international treaty and the stupid Trump unilaterally destroyed it. I have been to Iran and the people are well educated, informed and congenial. But our media and those in Chris' article have a need to keep Iran as the villains in order to make their apartheid and hegemony appear acceptable.
I've always known about the overthrow of Mosadegh. Anybody who doesn't know that is an ignoramus. Kermit Roosevelt was also involved in the assassination of Patrice Lumumba in Congo in around 1963. Scott Ritter wrote an excellent book all about how Trump destroyed the treaty with Iran. I recommend it.
Apparently his account has been reinstated. He tells the story to Richard Medhurst, on Medhurst's YT channel. Both are doing great work.
We are heading toward nuclear war. Few seem to have noticed, and fewer still care. Some, want it bad.
UPDATE
I just saw Ritter interviewed and his account has been suspended a second time. This time permanently. Some bullshit about "harassment".
I was suspended there last September. After my addiction cleared, I realised how sick I was to waste time at such a sick site. Many who were forced to quit report feeling the same way.
It was a great place to follow breaking news, and I had many friends there. I also miss not being able to challenge the powerful. That too though was going away as Twitter has made it easy for those types to limit responses and of course to block you.
I also predict that Lord Musko will not 'bring back' even the pseudo free speech that we enjoyed on Twitter in its early days. He will simply not be allowed to do that. And even that little man gets his way, he will not bring back "free speech". Trump will come back though. "Good for business" Money.
I've been trying to figure out why these ghouls are not terrified at even just the remotest prospect of nuclear war and then I came across a book entitled, Raven Rock: The Story of the U.S. Government's Secret Plan to Save I Itself - While the Rest of Us Die. Raven Rock, PA is just one of several Continuity of Government (COG) shelters. I'm willing to bet everyone mentioned in this article has a place at one of these, along with some of their families, as well as a lot of the tv news personalities, like Ali Velshi, calling for the "direct involvement" of NATO in the Ukraine War and, of course, a whole bunch of billionaires and rich campaign contributors. They're just insane enough to believe that a nuclear war can be limited, managed etc.
Forgot what happens except for Slim Pickens riding the bomb - lol! I'll have to rent Strangelove again bc it's probably more apropos now than when it was made!
Interesting and it hasn't occurred to them that the Russians know exactly where all of these bunkers are and have them programed into their list of targets?
I'm glad you are on Substack, and I hope you do well, but I have to disagree with your statement "Putin like everyone else they target only understands force." Putin waited over 8 years to finally decide that his only answer was to attempt to "denazify" Ukraine and even then he signaled repeatedly that he might attack unless the US and NATO started to respond to his very reasonable request - i.e. that the US and NATO stop threatening Russia with war by encircling his country with nuclear armed missles and playing war games obviously aimed at Russia on the borders of his country. Your article never so much as mentions the word NAZI which is a very important word these days when talking about Ukraine because the government and the military and the police departments of Ukraine are headed by Nazis and I'm quite sure you know that, so why don't you at least mention it? Or are you following the rest of our MSM that also never says even one word about Nazis? You as a 20 year war reporter must have some idea what Russia went through in WWII even though you weren't there, because you know what war looks like. So the fact that Russia lost 27 MILLION people fighting the Nazis and America can count its losses in the thousands NOT MILLIONS says something important about how Russia feels about Nazis. Surely you can understand that? I don't think this Ukraine war is a good idea, but I certainly do understand how it came about, and the real reason it is happening is because the US planned it that way. Biden and company could have stopped it at any point,but they refused to do it. At each step Putin paused hoping Blinkin/Biden et al would wake up and tell Zelensky to start obeying the treaty he agreed to. Zelensky is our puppet and will do what he is told, but we haven't told him to end this war, so he continues to tell outrageous lies (I wonder who writes his speeches for him, and thinks up all these things?) to work up even more hate and chaos.
I wish that you had written something about that; I have read your pieces and I know that you are strongly against the behavior of our government when it comes to war, so it would be good if you would put your mind to writing the truth about that instead of blaming the victims of our ugly warlike machinations complete with machiavellian plots.
It is very telling that most people dismiss the notion of Nazis in Ukraine just because Zelensky is Jewish. It is sad (and dangerous) that people aren't curious or skeptical enough to do a little research to find out for themselves what Putin is talking about when he refers to Nazis.
I interpreted that sentence as referring to the mindset of the Kagan-Nuland-et al. cabal, not Chris's own opinion. I did, however, pause when I read the sentence. But the inclusion of the phrase "like everyone else they target" and much of what precedes the sentence suggests to me that Chris is describing the opinion of the subjects of his piece. Otherwise, I agree with you completely about Russia's conduct and motivations, as well as the US engineering the current conflict. I believe Chris would also agree.
Thank you Betsy, you may be right that Chris was speaking of others, but I hope he'll be clearer in the future if that's the case. There are so few people, especially among pundits, who are capable of doing the research and clear thinking about this situation in the face of so many egregious lies - particularly the ones Zelensky takes such pleasure in telling. The fact that he is jewish and has completely gone over to the Nazi side makes it even worse. He probably is afraid for his wife and child as well as for himself, But his cowardice seems to know no bounds.
There was absolutely nothing reasonable about Putin's demands. No part of Ukraine's government or military or police are "headed by Nazis". You are simply peddling Putin's lies.
Carl I hope you read what Putin said when he announced his decision to attempt to "denazify" and "demilitarize" Ukraine. It appears that almost no one did read his speech, which is why we are where we're at. As for the presence of Nazis in Ukraine, if you would like to know the truth, I can recommend Consortium News on line. There are a number of articles there written by Robert Parry and also by Joe Lauria, both of whom are veteran investigative reporters. Consortium News is free on line to anyone, and does not require a subscription.
Oh I'm very familiar with Consortium News, but I wouldn't describe their distortions as "truth".
And yes I did listen to Putin's insane speech. The idea of Ukraine "demilitarizing" when a hyper-aggressive Russia is on their border is suicidal. And Putin's regime considers any Ukrainian a "Nazi" if they want continued independence from Russia.
Today like yesterday, I'm angry at the insane media driven focus on Ukraine. It's not that it doesn't matter just that there are close to a half dozen conflicts in Africa where more people are getting butchered, raped and 'displaced' thanks to western greed stoking up wars, sending in arms, just to grab those 'displaced' people's resources. Same, same with Yemen which just like Saudi Arabia has oilfield on land once called useless where Shia people have been living for many generations. Now that the land is valuable USuk is arming and equipping wahabist fanatics to kill the indigenous population & steal the oil. Exactly what has been going on since the beginning of last century in Saudi Arabia.
but I'm even angrier today than I was yesterday. Yesterday morning I woke to the news that a conspiracy of Pakistan's corrupt institutions had taken the US dollars and run a coup against the elected government. It reminded too well of when exactly the same thing happened in Australia when I was living there in 1975.
A mixture of bullying, bribery and blackmail by the US drove the Whitlam government from power, consequently Australia hasn't had an independent sovereign government ever since.
That can be seen in the decision lat year by the Biden regime who decided Australia must pay them another 300 billion for the cost of being oppressed by amerika. The Oz government pulled on their forelocks, kissed Biden arse by throwing out their submarine contract with France and signing up for a deal costing an order of magnitude more, which has no delivery date. Oh and these wonderful weapons platforms will be equipped with current generation cruise missiles incapable of getting past either Russia's or China's self defense systems, yet Australians are told they need the useless white elephants to protect themselves from Russia or China.
I'm angrier today though because I learned this morning that less than 24 hours after Imran Khan's government was corruptly dismissed by amerikan assistant state secretary Donald Liu, that amerika had launched a missile strike on the already suffering poverty stricken people of Afghanistan. Those missiles flew across Pakistan airspace and Imran Khan had refused permission while he was leader.
Not even one day after his unjust dismissal and amerika is back to killing Afghanistan's citizens!
Why? amerika has already seized all of Afghanistan's cash & gold reserves, but not content with that, the Biden crime family is punishing them even more for the crime of embarrassing amerika's military by beating them like a dusty old rug to the point where they had to run out with their tails between their legs.
Apparently it takes too long to starve Afghanistan to death, so they're going back to bombing them 24/7/365.
The folks that own the empire must really like these people; so they keep them swimming while the truth seekers, and truth finders (e.g., Julian Assange) must be made to drown! The owners of the empire must also like the "journalist" Ken Dilanian, who was fired by the LA Times for sending articles to the CIA for vetting prior to publication, and is now an NBC News correspondent covering national security and intelligence. In a world where hiring decisions were not Orwellian, a journalist so disgraced would likely never be hired to again work in journalism, let alone being assigned to cover intelligence, since that's the one area they have proven themselves to be completely compromised. But in this dystopia, the major, mainstream network NBC hired this person to cover that very subject (intelligence)! I would like to wonder how such a thing could happen; but I can't wonder, because I realize that it's for the same reason that all of the imperially-connected ignoramuses mentioned in Chris's article keep swimming.
Just FYI, Charles Krauthammer joined the Silent Majority (in Herodotus’ meaning, not Spiro Agnew’s) a couple years or so ago. Can’t think of too many people I miss less. Mr. Hedges seems to refer to him as if he’s still with us. Great fire-and-brimstone rant re the pimps of war, though. 😊
Krystol, the Kagans, Krauthammer, etc. are weak dorks, who couldn't beat up a paper bag. They live vicariously through U.S. military power because they have to. They also likely have who knows how much stock in military complex companies. Their 50 year old, anachronistic cold war crap is beyond stupid and old. These primitive dorks appear to want to model the U.S. after 1930s Germany, which explains their love of imperialism. The U.S. is no different from Germany in 1939....invading sovereign nations and killing countless civilians because of the 'might is right' moral code.
These people are not nationalists. They are interlopers using America to smite their foes. Way too many carry baggage from Russia and Eastern Europe especially. This Nuland creature has a special 'bond' of hatred with Russia. Americans better wake up and stop heeding people with ulterior motives.
From hero to zero, post WW2 to Vietnam, the United States has become the world's leading trouble maker. Now more concerned with waging war than promoting peace. It's our way or the highway, you are either with us or against us, that is the essence of US foreign policy, described in part by GW Bush in a prelude to war on Iraq. No longer does America deserve the colours Red, White and Blue, only Battleship Grey, the shade denoting the withering presence of perfidious Uncle Sam and his cohorts of destruction and doom.
The US, a country that gave the world much that was good, has squandered it's onetime reputation of a fair and just people to one of murder rape and genocide. Not to mention years of transporting thousand of West Africans a cross the Atlantic to a dehumanised existence in the, brave New world.
If Americans did not swallow hole the delusion of American exceptionalism, their vacuous minds would have no thoughts at all.
it's this rare coherent articulated rage against documented idiocracy and mendacious propaganda....against injustice itself..... that offers...well, ok primitive... but the most satisfaction.....given the nadir of honesty and clarity in mainstream corporate media these blasts of lucidity from Mr. Hedges offer cathartic validation....
So much to digest. Stunning writing . "They once railed against liberal weakness and appeasement. But they swiftly migrated to the Democratic Party rather than support Donald Trump, who showed no desire to start a conflict with Russia and who called the invasion of Iraq a “big, fat mistake.” Besides, as they correctly pointed out, Hillary Clinton was a fellow neocon. And liberals wonder why nearly half the electorate, who revile these arrogant unelected power brokers, as they should, voted for Trump."
You can always leave a message at your nearby gas pump with a message that says, these gas prices courtesy of NATO. Heard the idea, thought it was good. Can always direct readers as well to a news source that isn’t pro-war. Extinction Rebellion and Animal Rebellion in the UK is having a massive street protest right now demanding their government end this fossil fuel madness. We should be doing the same here in the States and rising up against these powers that are funding these wars, polluting the air and water, destroying ecosystems while we have people homeless and hungry. EXTINCTIONREBELLION.US #Endfossilfilth#Willnotbebystanders
Jimmy Dore and Max Blumenthal.
Not Jimmy Dore. But Blumenthal, and Joe Lauria of Consortium News, and Aaron Mate, and Lee Camp, And for a collection of other independent news sites, go to Radindiemedia.com. I can't believe anyone listens to or believes mainstream media any more.
Carolyn, I believe the belief in mainstream media is happening less and less, it is essentially dying. The opposition to the mainstream media is happening virtually everywhere.
Right. Thought it was important to mention it.
Does anyone here think a gas boycott could happen now in the States?
There is a gas boycott planned for the "Earth Day to May Day Strike". https://earthdaystrike2022.org/
Thanks, I just contacted them.
Th in
Even Chris Hedges says that you’re only gonna be successful if you help everybody. Imagine me, being vegan, wouldn’t help or invite people to a protest if they weren’t vegan. It wouldn’t work. And again, Chris points out that people get drawn in to these different fringe groups when the government lets them down.
THE CHRIS HEDGES PLAYBOOK ...
Let us first review a few of his more revealing quotes:
"I don't think we're going to stop the pandemic and the mutations until everybody gets vaccinated" ... (we can't vax ourselves out of this pandemic - AND HE KNOWS IT!)
BTW, he has refused to comment on or stand with the working class against the illegal and unconstitutional vax mandates and passports
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"Let us stand up and resist so future generations will at least say ‘they tried.’ We cannot do this alone ... together we have a chance" ...
BTW, he has refused to comment on THE GREAT RESET, The World Economic Forum and the book THE FOURTH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION
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In a 2020 interview, he said he told indigenous pipeline protesters to "park your cars in their path, remove the engines and walk away" ...
BTW, he did not even mention the the U.S. and Canadian trucker convoys until a March 2022 interview with Jimmy Dore
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After 2014 speech, he was asked to comment on 9/11 and insulted our collective intelligence by saying "Bush was probably just asleep at the wheel" ...
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But he knows he can maintain his place in the "independent media" food chain by:
1) ripping on AOC
2) talking about Assange
3) talking about Snowden
4) talking about Ukraine
That's all he has to do, that's it!
His work with prison inmates is laudable, but not nearly significant enough to offset the effects of his selective silence on these issues ... his avid "swear-by" followers comport themselves as cult members ... Chris can do no wrong and they can find no fault ... for the same reason they all listen to NPR, they listen to Chris for no other reason than it makes them feel cultured ...
One positive aspect of the pandemic was that it really exposed the truly fearless from the fear-driven ...
My list In no particular order ...
- Matt Taibbi
- Glenn Greenwald
- Max Blumenthal
- Dan Cohen
- Kim Iversen
- Aaron Mate
- Abby Martin
- Caitlyn Johnstone
- Jimmy Dore
- Karen Kingston
- Stew Peters
- Chris Smalls
- Jordan Chariton
- Dr Robert Malone
- Dr Peter McCullough
- Dr Michael Yeadon
- Dr VZ Zelenko
- Catherine Austin-Fitts
- Lt. Col. Stuart Sheller
- Former Amazon VP Tim Bray
- Former FDA Officials Philip Krause, Marion Gruber
- Australian Journalist Maria Zeee
The list goes on but Chris is no longer on it ...
Last year Lt. Col. Stuart Sheller took an incredibly courageous stand by demanding our military Generals be accountable for their actions in Afghanistan ... he posted a 5m video here on YT knowing it could result in jail time and the loss of his military benefits ... and only afterward did he tell his wife!
First off, you may not want to get a shot, but your statement that (we can't vax ourselves out of this pandemic - AND HE KNOWS IT!) is not necessarily true. You cannot say total vax won't work because you cannot prove it. If you want to cherry pick the .0000001% who got vaxxed and the bug, stop splitting hairs into a hundred pieces.
I am definitely a science man, and to say that the Vax did not save millions of people from suffering from it is improbable at best.
So i don't get the point except you say mandates are unconstitutional, o.k., but don't tell me i have not been protected by the vax. All my family that got vaxxed did not get covid, some who did not, did. Dead stop.
The Fzr c e o recently admitted what I just said ... I've tried to post the details here on YT and my comments have been blocked for several weeks now - sorry, but I tried ... the data supporting my claims is out there if you look hard enough ...
Oh really? ... one full year has passed since we had this exchange ... I would hope you now realize that the vax is in fact, a bioweapon ...
Seems like some of these more off-narrative substackers, who write wonderful pieces like this one, stay away from pandemic topics. Here’s a great piece on just why the vax won’t save us:
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/covid-is-becoming-increasingly-vaccine?r=q1ply&utm_campaign=post&utm_source=covid%20is%20becoming%20increasingly%20vaccine%20enabled&utm_medium=ios
Got it, read it, Thx ...
I've said it before and I'll say it again ... the globalists are brilliant! ...
They've been planning this for decades ... I believe the so-called narrative is falling apart because it's all part of the plan ... it's a simple axiom ... the more polarized, the more the science contradicts the narrative, the more divided we become ... it then becomes easier to ID and control dissidents ... and the definition of dissent and the applicable laws are then revised as needed ... and don't under-estimate the role of independent media as a divisive catalyst ... the typical "independent" media figure today is an algo-obsessed creature that only sees SUBS, LIKES and SHARES ... they all dismiss opportunities to unite segments of the working class right and left as a self-destructive practice ... Hedges really nailed it by describing the principles of "primacy of profit" and "primacy of self" as our achilles heel.
Thanks for the overall comments. I get it you are not too much a Hedges fan.
Ha! ... I won't miss you ... ta, ta ...
He may have. Obviously no matter how different you are in ideology when forming an alliance, you have to be able to agree on certain things for it to work. Where is the info on this? I have never heard Jimmy backtrack on affordable or free healthcare which I am in favor of.
I've done my research on the funding for the convoy and I don't buy your claims ... thought it was important to mention that!
True...Jimmy rants a lot but hey...he's better than CNN, Fox, and MSNBC combined!
He should be ranting.
Humanity is on the brink.
Many simultaneous brinks.
I yell a lot too.
i think Hedges might argue the freedom truckers as akin to occupy, which he found an optimistic movement and that we require more of such movements. I have yet to see any evidence of the truckers as anything other than regular citizens protesting for their rights. Trudeau was way out of line.
Could not agree more - I thought the truckers did one hell of a job ...
BTW, Hedges did not comment on the convoys until his recent interview with Jimmy Dore in late March ...
Ok, so you resent the truckers, right? ... I got a question for you ...
Their stated goals were to compel Trudeau to 1) drop the mandates, and 2) abandon the use of vax passports ... so what's wrong with that? ...
Eagerly awaiting your reply!
I resent the truckers, illegally blocking streets for days, keeping emergency vehicles from being able to do their jobs, destroying the peace of neighborhoods, substantially disrupting the lives of thousands, disrupting commerce and jobs, not for a day or two but weeks and would still be there if it weren't for removing them from their illegal blockage of public facilities.
Four weeks, not two weeks. They were demanding the overthrow of Parliament, to be replaced with one consisting of the Governor General, the Senate, and themselves. Check out their "memorandum of understanding."
They took it down, but here are two articles analyzing it:
https://www.saltwire.com/atlantic-canada/news/were-not-lawyers-ottawa-protest-organizer-says-mou-not-meant-to-endorse-toppling-the-canadian-government-100691492/
https://theconversation.com/canadas-legal-disinformation-pandemic-is-exposed-by-the-freedom-convoy-176522
They are morons, but they believed this stuff, thought they could win, and were not going to leave willingly.
The truckers stated goals were to compel Trudeau to: 1) drop the mandates, and 2) abandon the vax passports ... what on earth is wrong with that? ... didn't you know, the liberal wing of the Canadian parliament is controlled by a foreign global power - the World Economic Forum ... aspiring to "overthrow" govt in this case, is actually a very appropriate and understandable goal ...
What you must realize is that the truckers were fighting fire with fire ... the elites do it to us every day in every way possible, the public has been numbed by it and now mindlessly accepts it ...
I never said I was against the truckers and was never in favor of the mandates.
I completely support the mandates, which have now been abandoned. The pandemic is not over. Not by a long s hot.
Carolyn, did you know that you can still get the virus and pass it on even when vaccinated? Also, do you not see compliance as opening the door to being experimented on?
Maybe, but why contribute to the thread being hijacked by comments irrelevant to the thrust of the O.P.? If we allow ourselves to get hijacked by one of the heads of the Hydra that is the culture wars, all that has happened is that we have been conned into arguing among ourselves instead of showing unity & solidarity on the big issues which we agree on.
Didn't you know ... the mandates are both illegal and unconstitutional?
The "plandemic" will not end until THEY say so ...
And you will continue to let them think for you until you stand up for yourself!
My wife went out to bar a few weeks ago after we opened up here in Ontario. She was there, mostly unmasked (we have been using N95s since the early days) for about two hours. Two days later she developed cold like symptoms. She then tested positive the next day. Three days later it was the same for me. We both had mild cold-like symptoms for about 3 days. We have both since recovered completely.
Masks work. And you are correct, it's not over.
I was replying to "Daniel" above ...
It looked like it got sent to me.
Well to start with, most of the mandates were provincial. That seemed to be over their heads.
Not sure what you men by "abandon the use of vax passports." What is a "vax passport?" I have my BC vaccine card, required to eat inside a restaurant. Is that what you mean? If so, it again has nothing to do with Trudeau or the federal government.
Have you read the "Trucker" (most of them were not truckers) MOU?
https://web.archive.org/web/20220122173201/https://canada-unity.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Combined-MOU-Dec03.pdf
I live in downtown Ottawa. What an utter shitshow of madness, fear, and clinical paranoia that was!
Somebody please explain ...
What were the goals of the truckers? ... why did they protest? ... what were they seeking?
The so called 'restrictions' were never anything more than minimally troubling for us. It is more bother and "oppression" to be FORCED to wear pants outside than it is to show someone that you are not a disease vector.
The horror.
"Has nothing to do with Trudeau"? WTF! ... please elaborate ...
Read their MOU skipper.
What if enough of these actions led to a massive boycott of fuel? Are enough citizens motivated? Most cities in the States have public bus lines.
Which is great if you live in town.
Well I said most people. It doesn’t take everyone to boycott successfully, just enough where consumption drops significantly long enough. You could certainly be an organizer.
In my area, the majority of people have to commute to work. No jobs and the jobs in the bigger city don't pay enough for you to move there if you were so inclined. --- Also, no, you did not say, "most people." You said, "Most states..."
All right most states where most people live have bus service. Why argue? Why not try to do something to improve the situation? Tonight I’m joining the activists at City hall demanding the city create housing instead of more warehouses. I’m not waiting for the other guy to do it. You’ve got internet, you can do something.
Bus service sucks where I live. I don’t drive, I lose my job.
What then?
I'm not arguing. I'm trying to point out to you that not everyone's situation is the same across 50 states and DC, plus innumerable cities, towns, and bergs. You do what you want. You're doing it for your area only and to feed your own ego, so you can put others down. What you do, in what ever blue hell hole you live in, will not do a damn thing to help out the rest if the country or the world. ESMFAD.
That can never happen.
It can. It has happened before and the people in the UK are inspiring and motivating many many people. I’m exercising my constitutional right to speak out in public about the fossil fuel crimes and crimes against farmed animals.
I have never had a car. I don't drive. I have told countless people IRL and online, that they will need to give up driving. I get denial, rage and hate. People tell me, and they believe it, "I cannot live without my car". So called Greens have such a bad addiction and sick dependence on cars, that they actually think they can replace a billion gas cars with a billion battery cars. "Problem solved"
*In 2020, there was a 0.6% decrease in the number of registered cars in the UK
Opioids, minerals, and it's strategic location.
"We've got one who can see!" - Alien to her watch, They Live
You are aware, of course, that Extinction Rebellion is funded and controlled by George Soros? The entire environmental movement has been hijacked in recent years by the rhetoric of "climate change", with everything now being directed towards the demonisation of carbon dioxide and profiteering via their sinister carbon tax plan.
Do you have any proof of that? I’d like to see that info. Unfortunately, effective organizations like theirs are always demonized as was Julian Assange.I believe it’s obvious we are in a desperate time and for one, large scale animal based agriculture is a huge source of harmful methane endangering the environment as well as a source of monstrous animal cruelty, something I would like to see end.Please share any info such as video on this.
Julian Assange was never bought by NWO agents. He is in a completely different category.
There are many reasons to be against large scale animal agriculture - but methane production? ...that is gaslighting propaganda, pure and simple. IMO.
I don't eat mammalian meat myself, but that is a different rabbit hole...
Large scale agriculture is also destroying the planet.
I agree that there are many, many critical issues, about energy, peak oil, exploitation of resources - all requiring thoughtful debate and creative input.
I just get very, very suspicious when I see complex issues like this, being reduced to slogans: "Stop dirty coal, oil and gas". Because the solutions proposed so far do not seem very convincing (or sustainable).
(Watch Planet of the Humans documentary on YT for a rather depressing but honest look at some of this.)
Anyway, ER: this video has a good critical look at them:
https://youtu.be/536qN22jxak
I will look at that video. I will say that this group’s shutting down of McDonald’s meat supply in order to get a plant based burger on the menu was a necessary action and a nonviolent one. They are working on large scale plant based food systems(vegan I mean, some people are now misusing the term plant based) to give people a healthier sustainable diet. I believe like Chris Hedges has said that if your cause is good for everyone, as is more veganism, you have to shut the systems down through nonviolent action when all other methods have failed. I personally don’t see Extinction or Animal Rebellion as being hijacked. As a vegan myself, I educate on an individual basis, but the change is not happening fast enough. More pandemics are on the way if animal Ag is not stopped with their need for overuse of antibiotics and their continual devastation of ecosystems to grow cattle feed so I’m planning to continue my support of these groups. Sorry, it’s exactly like what’s happening to Julian Assange, he’s been demonized to discredit him like Extinction Rebellion is, so the situations in that respect are identical. I think your reply to that comment gives away your position. We are murdering our own future with animal Ag and oil, stealing and destroying Native people’s lands for it with our sick meat based diets packaged in toxic plastic and unless you’ve got a better way I’m sticking with groups that can stop the abuse of big business with corrupt politicians that do their bidding.
You are welcome to your opinion, but your use of emotive language, inappropriate analogies (eg likening this to Julian Assange) and your readiness to dictate other people's food choices (without any evidence base) gives away YOUR position.
So let's leave it there - I don't like fanaticism of any shade, and I don't think it would be productive to proceed any further with this discussion.
I am emotional. I’m sorry if that bothers anybody, I feel as alarmed about this as Greta Thunberg does. It should be a mild typical spring where I live and instead temperatures have been below freezing and it’s been snowing here, in April! Climate change, which doesn’t mean it’s warm year round. I also cannot force veganism on anybody, it will not work, but I will work to see it is not shut out of the food system. And I will give people info that can help people decide for themselves how they want to eat. All the medical research shows it’s the healthiest of all diets providing one isn’t eating just vegan junk food. Here is a video by a medical doctor on veganism: http:://YouTube.be/8f9NAkDQ3Q.Anyone reading can also go to www.PCRM.org for info on it.
Extinction Rebellion are darlings of the MSM & the police treat them with kid gloves,,,, which tells you all you need to know about how "subversive" they actually are.....
Using the "Green Agenda" as a front for NWO, Global Governance or whatever they call themselves these days, is a decades long strategy as well honed as the public health bio security state agenda.
Iain Davis lays out the laborious details of the hijacking of the Commons in its entirety, by the greedy minority who, having raped & pillaged the Natural World for generations, now profess to be the ones to save Mother Earth from the scourge of "Us",,,, that people have swallowed this myth of a destructive humanity, scarcity & overpopulation is evidence of the efficacy of their psy-op.
As Plato once said, “This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.”
"Seizing The Global Commons, 'Green Agenda' is NWO"
https://rumble.com/vz09pm-seizing-the-global-commons-the-green-agenda-is-a-nwo-fraud.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=2
https://in-this-together.com/global-commons-part-1/
https://in-this-together.com/global-commons-part-2/
In 1941, Burnham (who went on to the OSS & CIA) would publish “The Managerial Revolution: What is Happening in the World”. In it he states:
“Effective class domination and privilege does, it is true, require control over the instruments of production; but this need not be exercised through individual private property rights. It can be done through what might be called corporate rights, possessed not by individuals as such but by institutions: as was the case conspicuously with many societies in which a priestly class was dominant...
“If, in a managerial society, no individuals are to hold comparable property rights, how can any group of individuals constitute a ruling class? The answer is comparatively simple and, as already noted, not without historical analogues. The managers will exercise their control over the instruments of production and gain preference in the distribution of the products, not directly, through property rights vested in them as individuals, but indirectly, through their control of the state which in turn will own and control the instruments of production."
All these Diggers have a stack of brilliantly illuminating & fastidiously researched articles 'under their belt', here are just a handful:
Part 1: "How the Unthinkable Became Thinkable: Eric Lander, Julian Huxley and the Awakening of Sleeping Monsters"
Matthew Ehret
https://matthewehret.substack.com/p/how-the-unthinkable-became-thinkable
"UN-Backed Banker Alliance Announces “Green” Plan to Transform the Global Financial System"
Whitney Webb
https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/11/investigative-reports/un-backed-banker-alliance-announces-green-plan-to-transform-the-global-financial-system/
"The Great Reset: How a ‘Managerial Revolution’ Was Plotted 80 Years Ago by a Trotskyist-turned-CIA Neocon"
Cynthia Chung
https://cynthiachung.substack.com/p/the-great-reset-how-a-managerial
"The Pilgrims Society: A study of the Anglo-American Establishment"
Joël van der Reijden
https://isgp-studies.com/pilgrims-society-us-uk
I read 2 of those articles. I don’t promote, nor does Extinction Rebellion from what I’ve seen, having anything to do with Eugenics, supporting Klaus Schwab, the CIA, etc. I support ending fossil fuels to save this earth and the end of animal Agriculture, including large scale fishing and fish farming which obviously creates disease and has decimated 90 percent of the fish in the ocean. I’ll send some videos shortly. Here’s one that describes pretty well why I believe in this cause: https://YouTube.be/DCnLWUSaz9o. For those who haven’t watched, to me this cause is about saving the planet’s species that have jobs to do in their ecosystems who we cannot replace who are on their way to extinction if we do not act on a large scale, and ending their needless pain and suffering. We can help by not buying the products that enable these industries to go on.
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I don't doubt that what you say is entirely true, Kelly. But it's not so much about 'promoting' eugenics, anal Schwab or the CIA, it's more about being an unwitting enabler of those lunatics & their vile ideology,,,,, if we're not careful, very careful.
I think people who are concerned for the environment and support the Extinction Rebellion movement do so with the purest of intentions..... but "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" & it is worth considering what other forces are in play that may latch on to & manipulate the good work of Common folk in order to advance their own more nefarious agendas.
I am fairly aligned with the professed aims of environmental movements, even if for different reasons in many instances, but I am also very aware & very wary of those who would seek to hijack, or at least 'nurture' those movements if it helped them achieve their own ends, ends that have been set down 'black upon white' for generations.
I do find it embarrassing & depressing to watch some of the 'actions' of Extinction Rebellion, those that get plenty of "air play" & which target other Common folk rather than the decision makers & power brokers who perpetuate this assault on Mother Earth & humanity in general.
The military is one of the biggest polluters, yet I don't see ER doing much to protest the roll out of yet another bloody & illegal manufactured conflict in Ukraine.
The Big Oil companies know full well what their "product" does,,,, I think Shell produced a short video back in the 70s on the subject of 'Climate', just before we got the "Coming Ice Age" frighteners for a decade. Just as Big Tobacco knew full well the dangers of what they were dealing. So when I see a bunch of folk blocking working people from getting to work, rather than blocking CEOs from getting to their office,,,, I kind of lose faith in their whole effort.
Change doesn't come from turning on your neighbours, it comes from uniting with your neighbours & challenging power. That's why I am suspicious that ER has simply become, unbeknownst to its supporters, a useful 'tool' for the same old exploiters, persecutors & despoilers who just need some photogenic, pseudo protest outfit to "prime" the public into accepting some very dubious solutions (those I referred to in my initial post).
I read your whole comment and I think your concerns are legit, but I think Extinction Rebellion are doing their work the right way. The issue of military and big oil has been covered by environmental activists but as I think you would agree to big media certain subjects are off limits when those companies essentially own the media such as anything involving an anti war stance.
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It puts me in mind of similar situations in the 1970s, such as the gender equality & feminism movements, as well as the abortion debate.
All of which, in my opinion, are perfectly valid issues that needed addressing & through which we have made great advances as a society.
However, on the one hand, an essential part of the gender equality & feminist movement was pushing for the recognition of women & work being done predominantly by women on an equal level with their male compatriots, recognising the value of the parenting role & the work of keeping house that many did at that time, perhaps even allocating a financial value to those vocations.
The reality was that women largely "won" the right to be another wage slave & tax cow with salaries falling & household incomes becoming dependent on 2 bread winners where before it was only 1. It has also, irrefutably, become even more of a rarity that a mother (or a father for that matter) would be able to devote themselves full time to the bringing up of children & making/keeping a home, meaning that the "State" has increasingly taken over that role & communities are hurt as a result.
Didn't Jill Stein write in her book that the CIA funded "Ms" magazine when it first came out? Heard Aaron Russo say that in an interview way back. Definitely a curious 'relationship' worthy of consideration if correct.
Edward Bernays (nephew of Freud, pioneer of Public Relations & perception management/propaganda) did a very successful campaign to convince American women to smoke cigarettes. He was working for Big Tobacco to get the non-smoking 50% of the population to become cigarette junkies, but he used "feminism" & liberation as his hook to change people's minds.
""Torches of Freedom" was a phrase used to encourage women's smoking by exploiting women's aspirations for a better life during the early twentieth century first-wave feminism in the United States. Cigarettes were described as symbols of emancipation and equality with men. The term was first used by psychoanalyst A. A. Brill when describing the natural desire for women to smoke and was used by Edward Bernays to encourage women to smoke in public despite social taboos. Bernays hired women to march while smoking their "torches of freedom" in the Easter Sunday Parade of 31 March 1929, which was a significant moment for fighting social barriers for women smokers."
Rest assured, the parade was a stage managed photo op to sell fags, not promote women's emancipation.
https://rumble.com/vr1qk9-the-century-of-the-self-part-1-happiness-machines.html
Similarly, Planned Parenthood attracted a lot of enthusiastic support from the old eugenicist crowd,,,, wasn't Gates' dad, a card carrying eugenicist, the first 'chair' of PP, or something like that?
That doesn't mean that the subject of abortion is purely a eugenics question, it just means that behind the scenes, perhaps less savoury interlopers help shape & stand to benefit from this shared agenda.
Likewise, those that trade in baby body parts would find common cause with those seeking to open an abortion clinic and I think that, regardless of your beliefs about abortion, those are not the sort of "interested parties" you want as part of that 'industry',,,,, in fact, again regardless of your pro-choice/pro-life bent, I don't think anyone would want abortion clinics to be treated as an "industry" at all.
Yet without digging into all these possibilities, we leave ourselves open to being manipulated & fooled by truly vile interests, ultimately discrediting our own cause through ignorance & naivety.
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The "Climate Change" discussion is being moulded into a polemic & dogmatic pseudo religion when it ought to be science, not "THE Science" as handed down from on high, but a purely open, combative & critical debate at all levels.
You simply need to watch Michael Moore's "Planet of the Humans" to see how easily the same old reprobates can hijack an "issue" to continue with their profiteering & despoliation unimpeded.
"Carbon Credits" are a similarly transparent scam when you dig into it,,,, a financial instrument for the banking/investment sector & an excuse for corporations to do fk all but add some rainbows & greenery to their logo & lob a bit of cash at poor countries who aren't raping the planet, in order to "offset" their own malfeasance.
I saw a meme the other week about electric car batteries which suggested this might be yet another "poisoned chalice" offered up as a 'solution' to the perceived problem of petrol cars (I know! not the most reliable source of info, but it did make me wonder).
"To manufacture each EV auto battery, you must process 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium, 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt, 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, and 25,000 pounds of ore for copper.
All told, you dig up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust for one battery."
I'd hope that non polluting cars would fast become a reality, but maybe that won't happen under the current system of absolute & unrestrained profiteering by a historically entrenched class of capital owners, who are exploiting patents & intellectual property rights in order to shore up their own monopolies & stifle ingenuity & invention more generally.
I'm not against ER or what they stand for, per say, although like anyone (even those who identify with ER) I'm sure I could quibble over the details. But I just think that perhaps the movement as a whole is ripe for manipulation & a perfect vehicle for facilitating the total theft of the Commons by our greedy minority by way of "solutions" proffered by a sycophantic political/corporate class.
"We've been conditioned to think that only politicians can solve our problems. But at some point, maybe we will wake up and recognize that it was politicians who created our problems."
Dr Ben Carson
I have no doubt that "Climate Change" will also be exploited as a divisive tool in a world addicted to "outrage" & desperate to alleviate the pervasive feeling of demoralisation which afflicts so many of us "worthless eaters".
But the solutions needed will not be found or implemented within the same "system" that created the problems in the first place.
"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it."
Albert Einstein
An all encompassing "Great Awakening", "GreatER Reset" or whatever you want to call it will be necessary,,, to rediscover a Common purpose, a Common potential, ingenuity, entrepreneurialism, a shared approach to "living" on this beautiful planet, with all these beautiful people in such a beautiful natural environment,,,, aided by a rediscovery of our true & uncensored histories.
We have tools at our disposal that no other peoples have had (as far as I know). Global connectivity, peer to peer & 'crowd' support technologies all offer the promise of unleashing human potential like never before.
However, these tools likewise offer our ruling minorities a way to enforce a level of global totalitarianism not even Huxley or Orwell could have imagined. A means to attain those 'ends' which are as old as the hills - "to own everything & be master of us all".
Sadly, the last couple of years of lawfare waged by the State on its people; the levels of censorship & orchestrated propaganda; the push for digital IDs/obedience certificates & the loss of bodily autonomy; Social Credit scores; Central Bank controlled Digital Currencies, etc. all seem to be shepherding us to the absolute worst of outcomes - a total global bio security surveillance state being gleefully cheered on by folk too self absorbed to look beyond their own pet agendas, & too 'lost' in their own grievances to maintain an open mind & an open heart, unable to recognise the shared humanity of us all,,,, even those fkrs who get on our tits sometimes :-))))
Too many "good people" have brought us to the precipice we find ourselves today, with a seeming majority of folk happily unleashing tyranny on their own "deplorable" neighbours based on nothing more than a shitphone 'ping' & some fake science off the TV.
"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing"
John Stuart Mill
Oh, & by the way, overpopulation is bollox:
https://rumble.com/vr9qer-overpopulation-is-a-myth.html
The myth of Overpopulation is just a trick by the ruling elitists to get the plebs to hate each other & themselves, to blame their own existence for the devastation of the planet rather than the greedy minority. I've just spent best part of 8 years pottering around the planet & it's mostly empty, and beautiful.
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Here's a few more words, 'black upon white', which illustrate the 'genealogy' of our ruling elitists & their hollow institutions:
In 1946, Huxley noted in his vision for UNESCO that:
"...it will be important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with the greatest care and that the public mind is informed of the issues at stake so that much that is now unthinkable may at least become thinkable.”
By the mid-1970s, one of the leading neo-Malthusians of that era, Paul Ehrlich mentored a young protégé named John Holdren and together they produced a stomach-turning manual called Ecoscience in 1977 where the pair wrote:
“Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime- sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all-natural resources, renewable or non-renewable, at least insofar as international implications exist. Thus, the Regime could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but also in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes that cross international boundaries or that discharge into the oceans. The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market. The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.”
In 1991, Club of Rome co-founder Sir Alexander King stated in the “The First Global Revolution” (an assessment of the first 30 years of the Club of Rome) that:
“In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill. In their totality and their interactions these phenomena do constitute a common threat which must be confronted by everyone together.
But in designating these dangers as the enemy, we fall into the trap, which we have already warned readers about, namely mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention in natural processes, and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then is humanity itself.”
So are the people demonstrating against "fossil fuel madness" also demonstrating in favor of going nuclear for power generation? Because without fossil fuels, the only options are nuclear or freezing in the dark.
With all the positive comments it makes me think there will be some widespread messaging on the issue that could result in a big boycott. As long as the message is easily removed it cannot be considered actual vandalism which would be counterproductive.
Dream away, sweetheart... I haven't done an exact count, but it appears to me as though 90% of those positive comments have been written by you.
Hi Mara, I never give my comments even one like. I think it comes from people who agree with Chris Hedges generally. The idea I mentioned I heard from reporter Max Blumenthal with the Grayzone. All I did was repeat it. I really do want a better world for you as well, without needless war and violence.
People are utterly dumbed down. They have been trained by the infantile crap on our media fed to them 24 hrs a day 7 days a week to see nothing, hear nothing and have lost all ability of critical thought.They truly are the proles of George Orwells 1984. The level of lies and anti Russian propaganda we are subjected to currently is beyond anything I witnessed during the Soviet cold war. Humanity is too stupid to exist, and soon will not. Such a pity all the wonderful creatures that have evolved along with us will go as well. Mankind can conceive no greater crime.
"Humanity is too stupid to exist, and soon will not."
I think people are too gullible, not too stupid - it's not exactly the same thing. If you assume "too stupid" then the people themselves are 100% to blame and there is really no solution aside from millions of years of evolution. If you assume "too gullible" then the mainstream media and those who control it bear equal responsibility, and there is the possibility that humanity will eventually "wise up". I prefer the 2nd option because I believe it is more accurate, it offers a path forward and it places the blame where it belongs - with the "leaders" and the media. When there is a crime you can blame the criminal or you can blame the victim and I generally blame the criminal.
In the course of 500 hundred years or so humanity has move from communities of tiny villages with a hundred people where the fools and charlatans (warmongers) could be easily identified and challenged, to "global villages" with hundreds of millions of powerless and voiceless people lead by anonymous and hard to challenge warmongers. I believe people and societies are capable of adapting but I don't know whether it will be in time.
Formal processes like democracy, a free press and free speech/expression are somewhat unnecessary in tiny villages where consensus can be reached, but are required for large nations, and they are part of the process of adaptation of humans grouping into larger communities. Political, media and business "leaders" are undermining those things, and if that leads to the destruction of everyone then clearly those in power are the fools. The truly stupid ones are the ones at the top, the "leaders", so hold those people accountable and the ones who spread their "narratives" which are nothing more than fictional stories meant to mislead.
To not research facts for verification of assertions by the media, or politicians, IS to be stupid, for it is only an idiot that takes a statement at face value.
Most people lack the time, interest or ability to conduct research into the reporting they get from the media, and that research is getting ever more difficult thanks to censorship of the truth (by that same media). Furthermore, for whatever reason people have been conditioned to believe the media - that makes them gullible not stupid.
I believe journalists have a responsibility to report the truth, politicians have a responsibility to represent voters and judges have a responsibility to enforce the laws and constitution, because that's what they are all paid to do. Most people already have a job, they can't also do the jobs of reporters, politicians and judges.
You've chosen to label people as stupid instead of acknowledging widespread corruption in media, politics and the justice system. As I implied in my earlier comment, the people, the media and the leaders bear equal responsibility. In a democracy, the people are ultimately responsible for the state of society, but we don't have a democracy, we have a *representative* democracy and the representatives are not doing their jobs.
The plumbing in my house doesn't leak, and that means the lowly and "stupid" plumber did his job. Meanwhile there is shit coming out of every mainstream media orifice because the media elites are NOT doing their job, so that's where I will focus my attention. Polls show that people have a very low opinion of the media, they know something is wrong but since it can't be fixed with a pipe wrench the Ivy League elites will have to do it. /s If we place our hopes and trust in the Ivy League elites we will surely be doomed, so I place my trust in the people and the "elites" can have my contempt.
The left and liberals have put all their hopes and prayers into the elites so no wonder they have become disillusioned nihilists. Put your faith into democracy and free speech because that`s that`s how good ideas are created, not in the nuclear bunkers of warmonger elites or politically correct dungeons and safe spaces of academia. A plumber with a pipe wrench is probably as likely to fix the media as the Ivy League educated elite who runs and censors it - no chance.
The problems in our society are complicated but censorship will obviously limit the scope of solutions, not expand them. Censorship is the problem not the solution, and the fact that censorship is the ONLY idea that media and political elites can formulate is clear evidence of widespread incompetence on their part.
Most people should, by now, know that mainstream media lies or at least stretches the truth- really, they just lie. Take bucha for example. To adopt the msm narrative at face value is indeed being stupid. I stand my ground. "naive" may work better, but the fact of the matter is that a voter SHOULD expect to invest time in researching facts in order to derive a VALID conclusion of ANY situation. The initiation of world war 3 is kind of a no brainer (that it must be investigated for truth and facts). You stipulate yourself "people are ultimately responsible for the state of society". End of discussion.
You stipulate yourself "people are ultimately responsible for the state of society". End of discussion.
You took half of my sentence and used it out of context, and then declared the end of the discussion. You're entitled to do that, I don't really care. We happen to agree on the important points but disagree on how to solve the problem. My solution is that the media do a better job and your solution is that media viewers do a better job and we are probably both correct. Most disagreements revolve around "how" to solve a problem and not whether or not to solve it. Often problems can be solved in more than one way and sometimes it is better to attempt two solutions at once if they are additive.
I am in total agreement with you about the media bs'ing the public. That's why it's imperative that people examine facts from other, reliable information sources. Corruption (media lies and propaganda) won't go away unless massive riots/protests occur. So where do we go?
I'm frustrated about the situation, and only see a solution in the people. And that is why I am holding THEM accountable. There is no other choice.
You've gone way beyond what my comment concerns. If one does not understand what they are, or aren't supporting politically, then YES, they are being stupid, for their input provides nothing to better improve our circumstances.
Could not agree more - thank you!
It’s only hopeless if people do nothing. I hope nobody is discouraged by your words.
Hi Kelly, I have watched 2 generations from the height of the cold War through to now. I have been an activist campaigning against nuclear weapons and global warming most of my life. In the 60s 70s and 80s there was a lot of activism and for a brief period in the 90s with the breakdown of the Soviet union there was hope for a different world. Now there s no debate or very little discussion. I have never in my life experienced the level of lies and propaganda in our main stream media as at present. We are closer to nuclear destruction now than at any time in the past, including the Cuban crisis. The rapidly developing global warming ecological collapse is reaching a point of no return, yet our leaders show utter incompetence and are either cowards or stupid.. I am old tired and disillusioned so I guess that is reflected in my comments. I hope your generation has more success than mine.
I’m glad you commented and now I feel guilty. You worked very hard and got a lot of frustration. I felt the same way for years until about 2010 but my view is through animal activism so my efforts are more narrowly focused. I believe the people much younger than me are going to accomplish more than anybody before them. I’m sorry it’s been such a hardship for you, few in my experience stick with it for long because to be an activist is to live with frustration and ridicule. Hopefully you will be able to see what your work has led to for the better soon. Whatever’s achieved now is due in part by who came before them.
It's always easier to expect "the other, next generation" will clean things up. Sorry charlie- ain't gonna happen.
Do not give up the fight mr Schofield your side needs you.
you are right, but I am old, hope is for young people (they see everything different anyway, which is great!!)
I am really happy about Extinction Rebellion is doing. They are broadcasting live all week on YouTube, getting lots of volunteers. Wish you could watch it if that is of interest to you.
YES, thank you, this is very important (I wish - like the milkmaid - that it would run on MSM ...
The one word mention of Iran deserves more attention. Precious few Americans understand that the CIA along with the Brits overthrew Irans' democratically elected Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953 to maintain British control of Iran's petroleum. We installed the son of the deposed Shah as our stooge and stole billions of dollars of Iranian money from the worlds financial system. Heck, our men leading the charge was Eisenhower and the Dulles boys. Our point man in Iran was Kermit Roosevelt. Ever since the Iranians took their country back in 79 the US has demonized them. Please note their overthrow of the American Imperialism was bloodless. Finally we got an international treaty and the stupid Trump unilaterally destroyed it. I have been to Iran and the people are well educated, informed and congenial. But our media and those in Chris' article have a need to keep Iran as the villains in order to make their apartheid and hegemony appear acceptable.
I've always known about the overthrow of Mosadegh. Anybody who doesn't know that is an ignoramus. Kermit Roosevelt was also involved in the assassination of Patrice Lumumba in Congo in around 1963. Scott Ritter wrote an excellent book all about how Trump destroyed the treaty with Iran. I recommend it.
Just saw Scott Ritter on Jimmy Dore. I respect him for speaking up and disappointed but not surprised about his being taken off Twitter.
Apparently his account has been reinstated. He tells the story to Richard Medhurst, on Medhurst's YT channel. Both are doing great work.
We are heading toward nuclear war. Few seem to have noticed, and fewer still care. Some, want it bad.
UPDATE
I just saw Ritter interviewed and his account has been suspended a second time. This time permanently. Some bullshit about "harassment".
I was suspended there last September. After my addiction cleared, I realised how sick I was to waste time at such a sick site. Many who were forced to quit report feeling the same way.
It was a great place to follow breaking news, and I had many friends there. I also miss not being able to challenge the powerful. That too though was going away as Twitter has made it easy for those types to limit responses and of course to block you.
I also predict that Lord Musko will not 'bring back' even the pseudo free speech that we enjoyed on Twitter in its early days. He will simply not be allowed to do that. And even that little man gets his way, he will not bring back "free speech". Trump will come back though. "Good for business" Money.
Next up they will come for SubStack.
Next time you go to the laundromat ask your fellow launderers if they know about Mosadegh.
https://youtu.be/7ZE0TuKTpo4
Iran is an enemy of Israel and therefore must. be. destroyed.
Iraq had that very same problem. Go figure.
It is a big game: Israel the victim, Iran the persecutor and U.S.A. the rescuer. Look up the Karpman Triangle, it explains the game.
I left out Syria. "Assad has to go"
Israel is insisting!
(and treating al Nusra fighters in their hospitals)
As usual Chris Hedges nailed it! Now I know why Chris has been deplatformed...he speaks truth to power!
I've been trying to figure out why these ghouls are not terrified at even just the remotest prospect of nuclear war and then I came across a book entitled, Raven Rock: The Story of the U.S. Government's Secret Plan to Save I Itself - While the Rest of Us Die. Raven Rock, PA is just one of several Continuity of Government (COG) shelters. I'm willing to bet everyone mentioned in this article has a place at one of these, along with some of their families, as well as a lot of the tv news personalities, like Ali Velshi, calling for the "direct involvement" of NATO in the Ukraine War and, of course, a whole bunch of billionaires and rich campaign contributors. They're just insane enough to believe that a nuclear war can be limited, managed etc.
See: the last 10 minutes of Dr. Strangelove
Forgot what happens except for Slim Pickens riding the bomb - lol! I'll have to rent Strangelove again bc it's probably more apropos now than when it was made!
Interesting and it hasn't occurred to them that the Russians know exactly where all of these bunkers are and have them programed into their list of targets?
New Zealand too I understand.
Many of them have spent their lives in 'bunkers'.
They love them.
I hear ya but think they've already lost their minds - lol!
I'm glad you are on Substack, and I hope you do well, but I have to disagree with your statement "Putin like everyone else they target only understands force." Putin waited over 8 years to finally decide that his only answer was to attempt to "denazify" Ukraine and even then he signaled repeatedly that he might attack unless the US and NATO started to respond to his very reasonable request - i.e. that the US and NATO stop threatening Russia with war by encircling his country with nuclear armed missles and playing war games obviously aimed at Russia on the borders of his country. Your article never so much as mentions the word NAZI which is a very important word these days when talking about Ukraine because the government and the military and the police departments of Ukraine are headed by Nazis and I'm quite sure you know that, so why don't you at least mention it? Or are you following the rest of our MSM that also never says even one word about Nazis? You as a 20 year war reporter must have some idea what Russia went through in WWII even though you weren't there, because you know what war looks like. So the fact that Russia lost 27 MILLION people fighting the Nazis and America can count its losses in the thousands NOT MILLIONS says something important about how Russia feels about Nazis. Surely you can understand that? I don't think this Ukraine war is a good idea, but I certainly do understand how it came about, and the real reason it is happening is because the US planned it that way. Biden and company could have stopped it at any point,but they refused to do it. At each step Putin paused hoping Blinkin/Biden et al would wake up and tell Zelensky to start obeying the treaty he agreed to. Zelensky is our puppet and will do what he is told, but we haven't told him to end this war, so he continues to tell outrageous lies (I wonder who writes his speeches for him, and thinks up all these things?) to work up even more hate and chaos.
I wish that you had written something about that; I have read your pieces and I know that you are strongly against the behavior of our government when it comes to war, so it would be good if you would put your mind to writing the truth about that instead of blaming the victims of our ugly warlike machinations complete with machiavellian plots.
It is very telling that most people dismiss the notion of Nazis in Ukraine just because Zelensky is Jewish. It is sad (and dangerous) that people aren't curious or skeptical enough to do a little research to find out for themselves what Putin is talking about when he refers to Nazis.
Thank you for your comments, I appreciate them and the fact that at least one or two read what I wrote.
What Putin is talking about when he refers to Nazis is any Ukrainian who doesn't identify as Russian.
I interpreted that sentence as referring to the mindset of the Kagan-Nuland-et al. cabal, not Chris's own opinion. I did, however, pause when I read the sentence. But the inclusion of the phrase "like everyone else they target" and much of what precedes the sentence suggests to me that Chris is describing the opinion of the subjects of his piece. Otherwise, I agree with you completely about Russia's conduct and motivations, as well as the US engineering the current conflict. I believe Chris would also agree.
Thank you Betsy, you may be right that Chris was speaking of others, but I hope he'll be clearer in the future if that's the case. There are so few people, especially among pundits, who are capable of doing the research and clear thinking about this situation in the face of so many egregious lies - particularly the ones Zelensky takes such pleasure in telling. The fact that he is jewish and has completely gone over to the Nazi side makes it even worse. He probably is afraid for his wife and child as well as for himself, But his cowardice seems to know no bounds.
i appreciate your clarity. keep up your scholarship. we need more well-informed citizens like you.
There was absolutely nothing reasonable about Putin's demands. No part of Ukraine's government or military or police are "headed by Nazis". You are simply peddling Putin's lies.
Carl I hope you read what Putin said when he announced his decision to attempt to "denazify" and "demilitarize" Ukraine. It appears that almost no one did read his speech, which is why we are where we're at. As for the presence of Nazis in Ukraine, if you would like to know the truth, I can recommend Consortium News on line. There are a number of articles there written by Robert Parry and also by Joe Lauria, both of whom are veteran investigative reporters. Consortium News is free on line to anyone, and does not require a subscription.
Oh I'm very familiar with Consortium News, but I wouldn't describe their distortions as "truth".
And yes I did listen to Putin's insane speech. The idea of Ukraine "demilitarizing" when a hyper-aggressive Russia is on their border is suicidal. And Putin's regime considers any Ukrainian a "Nazi" if they want continued independence from Russia.
Today like yesterday, I'm angry at the insane media driven focus on Ukraine. It's not that it doesn't matter just that there are close to a half dozen conflicts in Africa where more people are getting butchered, raped and 'displaced' thanks to western greed stoking up wars, sending in arms, just to grab those 'displaced' people's resources. Same, same with Yemen which just like Saudi Arabia has oilfield on land once called useless where Shia people have been living for many generations. Now that the land is valuable USuk is arming and equipping wahabist fanatics to kill the indigenous population & steal the oil. Exactly what has been going on since the beginning of last century in Saudi Arabia.
but I'm even angrier today than I was yesterday. Yesterday morning I woke to the news that a conspiracy of Pakistan's corrupt institutions had taken the US dollars and run a coup against the elected government. It reminded too well of when exactly the same thing happened in Australia when I was living there in 1975.
A mixture of bullying, bribery and blackmail by the US drove the Whitlam government from power, consequently Australia hasn't had an independent sovereign government ever since.
That can be seen in the decision lat year by the Biden regime who decided Australia must pay them another 300 billion for the cost of being oppressed by amerika. The Oz government pulled on their forelocks, kissed Biden arse by throwing out their submarine contract with France and signing up for a deal costing an order of magnitude more, which has no delivery date. Oh and these wonderful weapons platforms will be equipped with current generation cruise missiles incapable of getting past either Russia's or China's self defense systems, yet Australians are told they need the useless white elephants to protect themselves from Russia or China.
I'm angrier today though because I learned this morning that less than 24 hours after Imran Khan's government was corruptly dismissed by amerikan assistant state secretary Donald Liu, that amerika had launched a missile strike on the already suffering poverty stricken people of Afghanistan. Those missiles flew across Pakistan airspace and Imran Khan had refused permission while he was leader.
Not even one day after his unjust dismissal and amerika is back to killing Afghanistan's citizens!
Why? amerika has already seized all of Afghanistan's cash & gold reserves, but not content with that, the Biden crime family is punishing them even more for the crime of embarrassing amerika's military by beating them like a dusty old rug to the point where they had to run out with their tails between their legs.
Apparently it takes too long to starve Afghanistan to death, so they're going back to bombing them 24/7/365.
The folks that own the empire must really like these people; so they keep them swimming while the truth seekers, and truth finders (e.g., Julian Assange) must be made to drown! The owners of the empire must also like the "journalist" Ken Dilanian, who was fired by the LA Times for sending articles to the CIA for vetting prior to publication, and is now an NBC News correspondent covering national security and intelligence. In a world where hiring decisions were not Orwellian, a journalist so disgraced would likely never be hired to again work in journalism, let alone being assigned to cover intelligence, since that's the one area they have proven themselves to be completely compromised. But in this dystopia, the major, mainstream network NBC hired this person to cover that very subject (intelligence)! I would like to wonder how such a thing could happen; but I can't wonder, because I realize that it's for the same reason that all of the imperially-connected ignoramuses mentioned in Chris's article keep swimming.
Just FYI, Charles Krauthammer joined the Silent Majority (in Herodotus’ meaning, not Spiro Agnew’s) a couple years or so ago. Can’t think of too many people I miss less. Mr. Hedges seems to refer to him as if he’s still with us. Great fire-and-brimstone rant re the pimps of war, though. 😊
Thanks, I fixed this to the past tense.
Krauthammer is a vicious maniac.
One of my least favourite people. Ever.
Like his name implies
Krystol, the Kagans, Krauthammer, etc. are weak dorks, who couldn't beat up a paper bag. They live vicariously through U.S. military power because they have to. They also likely have who knows how much stock in military complex companies. Their 50 year old, anachronistic cold war crap is beyond stupid and old. These primitive dorks appear to want to model the U.S. after 1930s Germany, which explains their love of imperialism. The U.S. is no different from Germany in 1939....invading sovereign nations and killing countless civilians because of the 'might is right' moral code.
These people are not nationalists. They are interlopers using America to smite their foes. Way too many carry baggage from Russia and Eastern Europe especially. This Nuland creature has a special 'bond' of hatred with Russia. Americans better wake up and stop heeding people with ulterior motives.
Russia has more than earned the hatred.
From hero to zero, post WW2 to Vietnam, the United States has become the world's leading trouble maker. Now more concerned with waging war than promoting peace. It's our way or the highway, you are either with us or against us, that is the essence of US foreign policy, described in part by GW Bush in a prelude to war on Iraq. No longer does America deserve the colours Red, White and Blue, only Battleship Grey, the shade denoting the withering presence of perfidious Uncle Sam and his cohorts of destruction and doom.
The US, a country that gave the world much that was good, has squandered it's onetime reputation of a fair and just people to one of murder rape and genocide. Not to mention years of transporting thousand of West Africans a cross the Atlantic to a dehumanised existence in the, brave New world.
If Americans did not swallow hole the delusion of American exceptionalism, their vacuous minds would have no thoughts at all.
it's this rare coherent articulated rage against documented idiocracy and mendacious propaganda....against injustice itself..... that offers...well, ok primitive... but the most satisfaction.....given the nadir of honesty and clarity in mainstream corporate media these blasts of lucidity from Mr. Hedges offer cathartic validation....
Don't forget, as the white world always will, the US overthrow of Jean Bastiste Aristide in Haiti.
Also don’t forget Operation Gladio and the terrorizing and nazification of Europe, led by the CIA…
So much to digest. Stunning writing . "They once railed against liberal weakness and appeasement. But they swiftly migrated to the Democratic Party rather than support Donald Trump, who showed no desire to start a conflict with Russia and who called the invasion of Iraq a “big, fat mistake.” Besides, as they correctly pointed out, Hillary Clinton was a fellow neocon. And liberals wonder why nearly half the electorate, who revile these arrogant unelected power brokers, as they should, voted for Trump."
they're not really nationalists. same asshats exporting america everywhere via bombs destroy american industry and import chinese crap
Nationalism is pernicious. It's evident you are a nationalist with your slur on China.