I didn’t vote for him either, but on the night he was elected I remember thinking that as deplorable as he may be, we probably just averted an invasion of Iran, a crime that H. Clinton seemed poised to commit.
I didn’t vote for him either, but on the night he was elected I remember thinking that as deplorable as he may be, we probably just averted an invasion of Iran, a crime that H. Clinton seemed poised to commit.
I agree and that's the reason I wouldn't vote for her. Also when Obama supported the coup in Ukraine in 2014 things were going on in my like that didn't give me much time for thought about this issue, then later on I saw Oliver Stone's documentary, Ukraine on Fire, and realized what our long term goals were going to be in Ukraine. Obama was literally playing with fire when he supported that coup and implemented the helping hands of neo-nazi's. Why would we do that unless we had further plans for Ukraine which is right in Russia's backyard. A very confrontational move on his part. Merkel said the minsk accords were never to be taken seriously, but simply to give Ukraine time to build herself up militarily. I thought if Clinton won in 2016 she was going to push Russia into a confrontation. The lie of Russia-gate, which I never believed, and along with how he was put down for wanting to get along with Russia, and their concerted effort to remove him from office made me suspicious, and I began to see it as a bridge to war. What was sickening was to see so many on the left vilify Trump, and actually help validate the lies the democrats spewed. I never knew so many on the left that proclaim their liberalism were so elitists as well.
You mean finish up on Syria. What a disgusting and tragic mess that is but I'm not sure about Iran although all the democrats supported Trump overturning the Iran deal. However, Ukraine, in my opinion was number one on the list, and why else would Obama support a coup, using the abusive tactics of the neo-nazi's? Lots of quite protests there too. It was the neo-nazis that implemented the violence. People never want to give Obama his full due, like he was no liberal and he implemented a number of wars during his reign and they say he loved to drone, well, he did become the droner and chief.
I didn’t vote for him either, but on the night he was elected I remember thinking that as deplorable as he may be, we probably just averted an invasion of Iran, a crime that H. Clinton seemed poised to commit.
I agree and that's the reason I wouldn't vote for her. Also when Obama supported the coup in Ukraine in 2014 things were going on in my like that didn't give me much time for thought about this issue, then later on I saw Oliver Stone's documentary, Ukraine on Fire, and realized what our long term goals were going to be in Ukraine. Obama was literally playing with fire when he supported that coup and implemented the helping hands of neo-nazi's. Why would we do that unless we had further plans for Ukraine which is right in Russia's backyard. A very confrontational move on his part. Merkel said the minsk accords were never to be taken seriously, but simply to give Ukraine time to build herself up militarily. I thought if Clinton won in 2016 she was going to push Russia into a confrontation. The lie of Russia-gate, which I never believed, and along with how he was put down for wanting to get along with Russia, and their concerted effort to remove him from office made me suspicious, and I began to see it as a bridge to war. What was sickening was to see so many on the left vilify Trump, and actually help validate the lies the democrats spewed. I never knew so many on the left that proclaim their liberalism were so elitists as well.
I suspect that she would have started with Syria, then moved on to Iran.
You mean finish up on Syria. What a disgusting and tragic mess that is but I'm not sure about Iran although all the democrats supported Trump overturning the Iran deal. However, Ukraine, in my opinion was number one on the list, and why else would Obama support a coup, using the abusive tactics of the neo-nazi's? Lots of quite protests there too. It was the neo-nazis that implemented the violence. People never want to give Obama his full due, like he was no liberal and he implemented a number of wars during his reign and they say he loved to drone, well, he did become the droner and chief.
IIRC, Team D were opposed to Trump's unilateral termination of the JCPOA, then reversed course, once Biden entered office.
That was certainly a black mark against Trump, not that it is any better when Biden continues along that path.