The Zionist movement from its inception has used deception, violence, ethnic cleansing and discrimination to solidify its apartheid state. The genocide in Gaza is another chapter in this 100-year war.
As 100 years of Zionist terrorism have shown: Israel's message to Palestinians:"It's either you run away - or you will be killed, sooner rather than later!" They don't even say that, being pathological liars, but that's their 'strategy'! So, it's high time to call a spade a spade!!
- Israel is a terrorist, outlaw state ! -
Israeli leaders must be arrested and tried!
A 'NEW NUREMBERG TRIBUNAL FOR ISRAEL' is urgently needed!
A Jewish relative of ours who emigrated from Europe to Palestine as a child in the 1920s told us how kind the Bedouins and others were to his family. The whole thing is inexpressibly sad.
Very sad and Ironic that a history like that evolved into this.
Would it be possible to re-program Israeli's to accept the these people they have hated and abused for decades as at least "almost" equals and stop trying to eliminate them?
I sincerely doubt it. I WISH the U.S. would stop giving billions to a terrorist nation.
I think the people in the US are getting tired of throwing money at regimes abroad while we nickle and dime our crumbling health and education systems. Unfortunately for us, those I have heard talk about this have been demagogues, xenophobic right wingers who would not direct that money to peaceful uses but have used their power to accumulate more wealth for the plutocrats. The central leadership of the Democratic Party has been beyond disappointing in their energetic support of colonial projects and their silence about genocide
The government has become hateful and corrupt in its promotion of war , violence and greed. But the US is a beautiful land with lots of generous people. As Mr. Rogers says, look for the helpers.
That is how I always saw it. Real nice even for one with a low income; I had freedom, safety, parks, libraries, affordable medical, a B.A. from Rutgers at 12.50 a credit, even a one family house for my 3 kids. Many of those things are evaporating.
I am just now, since the Palestine horrors, connecting with the reality of the hateful stuff..
In Canada, many of us have complex feelings about the US and what it does around the world. We feel sad for the unnecessary poverty and health precarity so many Americans live in............but incredulous when we realize that even what we consider your progressive party is all in for war after war after war.
You're still celebrating War Criminals like Henry Kissinger down there......mostly oblivious to the right wing dirty work he did in Central and South America. As long as I've been alive, America has been on the wrong side of world conflicts.....and prospered from those military coups and regime change wars.
The millions who've died have been largely people of colour...or folks of mixed Spanish/indigenous blood that most Americans still see as 'people of colour'.
Racism has a long tail......and it seems to work to keep most Americans oblivious to the suffering caused by their very own, made at home, foreign policy. I sometimes fear that the only way it will end, is with the end of civilization as we've come to know it.
So we feel your pain, but also wonder where the will will come from.......to start behaving as global citizens who put most of their efforts to building good government at home.
Ingamarie. True, but if here is raining in the rest of the world is not shining either. Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex some time ago. But now we also have to be watchful of the military industrial surveyance and the military industrial mass media.
Which are the failed States in the world today?? The British colonial project leftovers in Canada have engrained the false narratives as part of the military industrial complex. Indigenous people are rising up and the mainstream media is ignoring the reality-based struggle. Organization of the homeless may bring hope for the days ahead.
Very sad. But here in the Americas we share the same history: the indigenous peoples helped and were kind to the European invaders who later killed them.
This also reminds us that for all his upsides, that FDR played a big part in blocking migration of eastern European Jews to the US, sending a hefty stream of them either to death-by-Nazi or to Palestine. Enlightened? I'd say typical US politician weak stuff.
There was a book by Laurel Leff that documented how the NY Times suppressed news about the Holocaust despite all the information they got from reputable sources like Raoul Wallenberg and many others. And as you say, FDR also hid information about what was happening to Jewish people in Europe because he thought that if it became a "Jewish War", US support would decline. I wish Eleanor Roosevelt had been president then. And that now the response to the Holocaust were "Never Again, For Anybody".
Sadly (a continuous refrain in these comments) the Powers that Were hated Eleanor even more than Franklin. No MAN with her political views and activities could ever have been elected to anything. Which is precisely why she was the greatest of our First Ladies by such a long margin.
A damning new report from +972 Magazine published on Thursday exposes how Israel has been deliberately striking civilian targets in Gaza as a matter of policy because they believe it will “lead civilians to put pressure on Hamas.” It makes it clear that the IDF is very much aware of where the civilians are, and that when they kill children it’s because they calculated that it would be strategically worthwhile to do so.
But that has existed for decades, maybe centuries.........and we the people have been very careful to look away from the Fallacy of the Same. If you're real big........a nation let's say.......then be definition, you can't commit terrorism. All the recourse you have is to go to WAR against it.
I'm one of "those" from the older generation that does watch main stream media but only to mock out the absurd lies and propaganda ! Capitalism and the political establishment have mostly taken over the internet but there are still a few windows of opportunity like this one to brighten my life. Thank you. I bought the book !
Thanks Chris, I have Rashid's book. I have ordered 4 for Christmas presents. I have been using Jabotinsky quotes and Herzl when in "discussion" with willfully ignorant defenders of Zionist Fascism. Lets face it, which most will not. The 2 state solution has been an "inside joke" for at leas 40 years! The ONLY peace Zionists want, is Israel with absolutely NO PALESTINIAN's. The scorched earth policy in Gaza is flattening schools, colleges, universities, libraries, UHNRAH buildings, hospitals and the ethnic cleansing of every inch of Gaza. How do you negotiate with a racist Genocidal state, who consider Arab/Palestinian's as sub human animals?
Quite possible that The Zionists and their Jewish and a large proportion of the other American public supporters including AIPAC, Capitalists, Corporations and many other countries around the world will be the initiators of WW3. It seems to me that Jews are largely responsible for Capitalism and bribery in the world.
I am a Jew by birth and I am so disgusted, filled with rage and contempt.
We have a lot of work to do.........in all the religions. But think Noam Chomsky. What we likely could use now would be a compendium of all the influential figures of Jewish origin. Karl Marx comes to mind........as does Sigmund Freud. There's lots to be proud of in your faith....and I don't think most of those thinkers would be standing with the genocide going on in Gaza now.
Why isn’t the NYT article being more widely discussed? Being the mouth piece for the administration it would seem a lively doc to discuss relative to the ongoing genocide?
As to why we immediately supported Israel's attack on
As to why we immediately supported the attack on Gaza: The U.S. wrote the play book for allowing an attack so the State (we) could respond; I speak of 9/11, of course, where Building #7 was undisputedly a demolition - the Towers could be argued, falsely I think, to have been caused by planes flown into them. So Israel, with the best intelligence service in the world, pretends it didn't imagine an attack could occur and allows Hama to kill their own so they can respond with overwhelming force against Palestinians. Come to think it, Hitler was accused of starting the Reichstag Fire in 1933 in order to take power in Germany and proceed with Nazi power to their own, and everybody else's detriment..
Brilliant and comprehensive - I have Prof Khalidi's book on my digital TBR pile - it will now make even more sense having listened to this interview when I pick it up in the next few days. Thanks, Chris - yet again...The best takeaway - that Tel Aviv or Jerusalem are writing the lines for Biden - I would say, too, for the politicians in Australia as well as the national broadcaster the ABC. I keep pondering From the River to the Sea, etc - transferring the concept to Australia and its own coloniser/settler "ethnic cleansing" and land usurpation by the British from 1788 onwards - and its surviving First Australians peoples - From the Ocean (Indian) to the Ocean (Pacific) - Always Was - Always Will Be - AboriginaLand.
While the Torah is the most important book of the Jewish faith, the way that the law of Judaism is interpreted, that's not the case. There are Haggadah Jews in New York who are protesting today for the Palestinians and they say that stealing and murder are not the law of Judaism. They totally oppose the state of Israel. And if the most religious of the Jews says that, I'm not arguing with them.
It’s time for the Jews to win. That will end the killing.
It’s a big desert. Jordan for the Palestinians. Sinai for the Palestinians.
I am Canadian, Canada for the Punjabis, no need for a free Khalistan, no need of bloodshed.
Carl Schmitz, Nomos of the Earth: Time for the stronger party to win and time for the weaker party to lose. This is the standard of the Earth, the law of might. Time for the learned prevarication of this professor, and our author to step aside, their prescriptions have failed. Peace comes from war not from hymns.
Your cynicism is ridiculous in the face of modern weaponry and communications technology. Wars to end all wars - a show of extreme, brutal conquest - that we've all read about in history is an ANCIENT mindset, a backwards mindset. The point of studying history is to LEARN. The beauty of being HUMAN (or even just a living creature) is that you have a BRAIN. And through modern BRAIN SCIENCE, we have learned that MOST of us can, in fact, learn and keep learning. That means the human species can learn to reduce suffering rather than keep creating more and more of it. Because our brains also tell us that suffering is BAD. That's part of the feedback we can use our brains to discern and learn. All the stories of conquest and colonialism of the past that teaches us some kind of cycle and dynamics of power and violence, the key things to notice are the changes in technology and social/cultural understandings. The Romans didn't have the internet. The Brits, with all the "efficiency" of their naval technology at the time, they never had the kind of near-immediate feedback and information gathering that we can conduct today. We need our leaders to understand technology so they can better make use of it in real time. And then we need new - YOUNGER - leaders who have learned the new socio-cultural mores that do not make them seem weak but actually make them seem STRONG because they are decent and humane, and not this ridiculous Male Fight Club nonsense that is constantly pulling us backwards into an ancient mindset. It might be interesting to learn about Biblical times, but how absurd, backwards and even uncivilized it is to take people back to Biblical times!!! Peace does not come from war. Lasting peace comes from a world where most people living in it have something to live and strive for - opportunities that reduce suffering - and not a show of might that just perpetuates suffering or even produces more of it.
You realize that genocide works both ways and and genocide against Jews would accomplish the same result. So are you in favor of the Holocaust, since you recapitulate precisely the same arguments that the Nazis did in justifying that crime, even quoting
for truth the rabid antisemite and Nazi Carl Schmitt?
Diamond Boy, you reminded me of the new speak "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is ..." Unfortunately, the whole world is fulfilling the predictions of in the book "1948" but we can make a better world just rejecting fascism.
"Where is it going to go?"
As 100 years of Zionist terrorism have shown: Israel's message to Palestinians:"It's either you run away - or you will be killed, sooner rather than later!" They don't even say that, being pathological liars, but that's their 'strategy'! So, it's high time to call a spade a spade!!
- Israel is a terrorist, outlaw state ! -
Israeli leaders must be arrested and tried!
A 'NEW NUREMBERG TRIBUNAL FOR ISRAEL' is urgently needed!
Down with terrorist Israel!
And a new Nuremberg tribunal for U.S.A.
The irony is that Jews once fled en masse to the Muslim Ottoman Empire in escaping the Civilized And Enlightened Western Civilization.
A Jewish relative of ours who emigrated from Europe to Palestine as a child in the 1920s told us how kind the Bedouins and others were to his family. The whole thing is inexpressibly sad.
Very sad and Ironic that a history like that evolved into this.
Would it be possible to re-program Israeli's to accept the these people they have hated and abused for decades as at least "almost" equals and stop trying to eliminate them?
I sincerely doubt it. I WISH the U.S. would stop giving billions to a terrorist nation.
I think the people in the US are getting tired of throwing money at regimes abroad while we nickle and dime our crumbling health and education systems. Unfortunately for us, those I have heard talk about this have been demagogues, xenophobic right wingers who would not direct that money to peaceful uses but have used their power to accumulate more wealth for the plutocrats. The central leadership of the Democratic Party has been beyond disappointing in their energetic support of colonial projects and their silence about genocide
.
Starting to despise my country,....the good ole' USA, lying to me all my life.
WHY!?
CAPITALISM.
The government has become hateful and corrupt in its promotion of war , violence and greed. But the US is a beautiful land with lots of generous people. As Mr. Rogers says, look for the helpers.
That is how I always saw it. Real nice even for one with a low income; I had freedom, safety, parks, libraries, affordable medical, a B.A. from Rutgers at 12.50 a credit, even a one family house for my 3 kids. Many of those things are evaporating.
I am just now, since the Palestine horrors, connecting with the reality of the hateful stuff..
In Canada, many of us have complex feelings about the US and what it does around the world. We feel sad for the unnecessary poverty and health precarity so many Americans live in............but incredulous when we realize that even what we consider your progressive party is all in for war after war after war.
You're still celebrating War Criminals like Henry Kissinger down there......mostly oblivious to the right wing dirty work he did in Central and South America. As long as I've been alive, America has been on the wrong side of world conflicts.....and prospered from those military coups and regime change wars.
The millions who've died have been largely people of colour...or folks of mixed Spanish/indigenous blood that most Americans still see as 'people of colour'.
Racism has a long tail......and it seems to work to keep most Americans oblivious to the suffering caused by their very own, made at home, foreign policy. I sometimes fear that the only way it will end, is with the end of civilization as we've come to know it.
So we feel your pain, but also wonder where the will will come from.......to start behaving as global citizens who put most of their efforts to building good government at home.
Ingamarie. True, but if here is raining in the rest of the world is not shining either. Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex some time ago. But now we also have to be watchful of the military industrial surveyance and the military industrial mass media.
yes.......and those climate activists and woke hoards are also an immanent threat.....sucks to be you. Not that Canadians in general are much better.
"What did you learn in school today,
dear little boy of mine?
I learned our government must be strong.
It’s always right and never wrong. . ..
That’s what I learned in school."
— “WHAT DID YOU LEARN IN SCHOOL TODAY?” Lyrics of TOM PAXTON's song, 1963
I remember it well..........as well as Dylan's song....Masters of War was it.....that had the lines:
I've learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war comes
its them we must fight....
Starting to look like it was communism that might have been the answer; war loving capitalism that was the monster. But who knew???
Not fear stoked Americans....they were too propogandized to consider any alternative truths.
Israel offers its citizens universal healthcare and state universities, as well as other benefits that we are assured that we cannot afford.
Which are the failed States in the world today?? The British colonial project leftovers in Canada have engrained the false narratives as part of the military industrial complex. Indigenous people are rising up and the mainstream media is ignoring the reality-based struggle. Organization of the homeless may bring hope for the days ahead.
I wish that too, but first of all, I wish the U.S stopped being a terrorist nation.
Very sad. But here in the Americas we share the same history: the indigenous peoples helped and were kind to the European invaders who later killed them.
We don’t learn
Sweet and sad.
This also reminds us that for all his upsides, that FDR played a big part in blocking migration of eastern European Jews to the US, sending a hefty stream of them either to death-by-Nazi or to Palestine. Enlightened? I'd say typical US politician weak stuff.
There was a book by Laurel Leff that documented how the NY Times suppressed news about the Holocaust despite all the information they got from reputable sources like Raoul Wallenberg and many others. And as you say, FDR also hid information about what was happening to Jewish people in Europe because he thought that if it became a "Jewish War", US support would decline. I wish Eleanor Roosevelt had been president then. And that now the response to the Holocaust were "Never Again, For Anybody".
Sadly (a continuous refrain in these comments) the Powers that Were hated Eleanor even more than Franklin. No MAN with her political views and activities could ever have been elected to anything. Which is precisely why she was the greatest of our First Ladies by such a long margin.
IIRC, the western hemisphere country that was most accepting of Jewish immigration during the Holocaust was the Dominican Republic.
Thank you Chris, and thank you, Dr. Khalidi!
A damning new report from +972 Magazine published on Thursday exposes how Israel has been deliberately striking civilian targets in Gaza as a matter of policy because they believe it will “lead civilians to put pressure on Hamas.” It makes it clear that the IDF is very much aware of where the civilians are, and that when they kill children it’s because they calculated that it would be strategically worthwhile to do so.
Boyz that sure sounds a lot like terrorism....
It is Terrorism.....STATE TERRORISM...
But that has existed for decades, maybe centuries.........and we the people have been very careful to look away from the Fallacy of the Same. If you're real big........a nation let's say.......then be definition, you can't commit terrorism. All the recourse you have is to go to WAR against it.
Small wonder so few of us can think straight.
"What did you learn in school today,
dear little boy of mine?
I learned our government must be strong.
It’s always right and never wrong. . ..
That’s what I learned in school."
— “WHAT DID YOU LEARN IN SCHOOL TODAY?” Lyrics of TOM PAXTON's song, 1963"
I'm one of "those" from the older generation that does watch main stream media but only to mock out the absurd lies and propaganda ! Capitalism and the political establishment have mostly taken over the internet but there are still a few windows of opportunity like this one to brighten my life. Thank you. I bought the book !
Thanks Chris, I have Rashid's book. I have ordered 4 for Christmas presents. I have been using Jabotinsky quotes and Herzl when in "discussion" with willfully ignorant defenders of Zionist Fascism. Lets face it, which most will not. The 2 state solution has been an "inside joke" for at leas 40 years! The ONLY peace Zionists want, is Israel with absolutely NO PALESTINIAN's. The scorched earth policy in Gaza is flattening schools, colleges, universities, libraries, UHNRAH buildings, hospitals and the ethnic cleansing of every inch of Gaza. How do you negotiate with a racist Genocidal state, who consider Arab/Palestinian's as sub human animals?
Quite possible that The Zionists and their Jewish and a large proportion of the other American public supporters including AIPAC, Capitalists, Corporations and many other countries around the world will be the initiators of WW3. It seems to me that Jews are largely responsible for Capitalism and bribery in the world.
I am a Jew by birth and I am so disgusted, filled with rage and contempt.
.
We have a lot of work to do.........in all the religions. But think Noam Chomsky. What we likely could use now would be a compendium of all the influential figures of Jewish origin. Karl Marx comes to mind........as does Sigmund Freud. There's lots to be proud of in your faith....and I don't think most of those thinkers would be standing with the genocide going on in Gaza now.
This has to be one of the best interviews on the situation ever. It's like getting a whole semester's worth of knowledge in an hour. Excellent!
Why isn’t the NYT article being more widely discussed? Being the mouth piece for the administration it would seem a lively doc to discuss relative to the ongoing genocide?
thanks Chris another right on iterview. thank you thank you thank you
peace
As to why we immediately supported Israel's attack on
As to why we immediately supported the attack on Gaza: The U.S. wrote the play book for allowing an attack so the State (we) could respond; I speak of 9/11, of course, where Building #7 was undisputedly a demolition - the Towers could be argued, falsely I think, to have been caused by planes flown into them. So Israel, with the best intelligence service in the world, pretends it didn't imagine an attack could occur and allows Hama to kill their own so they can respond with overwhelming force against Palestinians. Come to think it, Hitler was accused of starting the Reichstag Fire in 1933 in order to take power in Germany and proceed with Nazi power to their own, and everybody else's detriment..
Aye, "false flags" - typical of the US going way back - and so why not the Zionists in Israel...the bloodthirsty Bibi...
Brilliant and comprehensive - I have Prof Khalidi's book on my digital TBR pile - it will now make even more sense having listened to this interview when I pick it up in the next few days. Thanks, Chris - yet again...The best takeaway - that Tel Aviv or Jerusalem are writing the lines for Biden - I would say, too, for the politicians in Australia as well as the national broadcaster the ABC. I keep pondering From the River to the Sea, etc - transferring the concept to Australia and its own coloniser/settler "ethnic cleansing" and land usurpation by the British from 1788 onwards - and its surviving First Australians peoples - From the Ocean (Indian) to the Ocean (Pacific) - Always Was - Always Will Be - AboriginaLand.
PS: It also may backfire and fuel greater antisemitism in the world.
I think it's already doing that.
It is vital to change the current narrative that leads only to more death and destruction.
Please sign the petition and share widely.
https://chng.it/CRQ7qw4Gzn
Tell your friends, congregation, religious leaders, colleagues, and loved ones. This is one small thing we can do. If we can do more, let us do more.
Sounds like the Zionist leaders learned their duplicity from perfidious Albion.
While the Torah is the most important book of the Jewish faith, the way that the law of Judaism is interpreted, that's not the case. There are Haggadah Jews in New York who are protesting today for the Palestinians and they say that stealing and murder are not the law of Judaism. They totally oppose the state of Israel. And if the most religious of the Jews says that, I'm not arguing with them.
There have been protests of thousands of Orthodox Jews in New York opposing Israel. I don't know where you're getting your information.
I think that you mean to say that 46% of the people in Israel are Jews. I don't believe that 46% of all the Jews on the planet live in Israel.
Documentation, please. Where did you get that information?
I believe they do.
WE need to call for his impeachment.
But hold that thought - we would get Kamala Harris for president if the impeachment was successful.
No. The Talmud.
It’s time for the Jews to win. That will end the killing.
It’s a big desert. Jordan for the Palestinians. Sinai for the Palestinians.
I am Canadian, Canada for the Punjabis, no need for a free Khalistan, no need of bloodshed.
Carl Schmitz, Nomos of the Earth: Time for the stronger party to win and time for the weaker party to lose. This is the standard of the Earth, the law of might. Time for the learned prevarication of this professor, and our author to step aside, their prescriptions have failed. Peace comes from war not from hymns.
Your cynicism is ridiculous in the face of modern weaponry and communications technology. Wars to end all wars - a show of extreme, brutal conquest - that we've all read about in history is an ANCIENT mindset, a backwards mindset. The point of studying history is to LEARN. The beauty of being HUMAN (or even just a living creature) is that you have a BRAIN. And through modern BRAIN SCIENCE, we have learned that MOST of us can, in fact, learn and keep learning. That means the human species can learn to reduce suffering rather than keep creating more and more of it. Because our brains also tell us that suffering is BAD. That's part of the feedback we can use our brains to discern and learn. All the stories of conquest and colonialism of the past that teaches us some kind of cycle and dynamics of power and violence, the key things to notice are the changes in technology and social/cultural understandings. The Romans didn't have the internet. The Brits, with all the "efficiency" of their naval technology at the time, they never had the kind of near-immediate feedback and information gathering that we can conduct today. We need our leaders to understand technology so they can better make use of it in real time. And then we need new - YOUNGER - leaders who have learned the new socio-cultural mores that do not make them seem weak but actually make them seem STRONG because they are decent and humane, and not this ridiculous Male Fight Club nonsense that is constantly pulling us backwards into an ancient mindset. It might be interesting to learn about Biblical times, but how absurd, backwards and even uncivilized it is to take people back to Biblical times!!! Peace does not come from war. Lasting peace comes from a world where most people living in it have something to live and strive for - opportunities that reduce suffering - and not a show of might that just perpetuates suffering or even produces more of it.
You realize that genocide works both ways and and genocide against Jews would accomplish the same result. So are you in favor of the Holocaust, since you recapitulate precisely the same arguments that the Nazis did in justifying that crime, even quoting
for truth the rabid antisemite and Nazi Carl Schmitt?
Literally.
Diamond Boy, you reminded me of the new speak "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is ..." Unfortunately, the whole world is fulfilling the predictions of in the book "1948" but we can make a better world just rejecting fascism.
You are just slightly out of your mind- but still, you should seek help, for your own good.
“So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing.” T.S. Eliot Wait without hope, 1943.
Don’t give up, you’re right, you are morally superior to me, and look what you have wrought.