In addition to the racist and racial aspects of this story, I think there were many possibly more important lessons about spirit and resistance and love.
I was absolutely blown away by the discussion of joining the dead, resisting any notion of defeat, and the love of a father and son expressed through language.
These are eternal values we all must get back in touch with.
What a stunning interview! Of course, I must quickly get a couple of copies of ‘America Made Me a Black Man’.
It is shocking to realize how little we actually know of our own lives until sheer luck happens to set an alert visitor inside the delusional ‘bubble’ we blithely took for bedrock reality !
I am autistic. I speak in parables, words have no meaning in America. They are words of Alice's Humpty Dumpty on the other side of The Looking Glass. Democracy only means non autocratic.
George Orwell warned us about Newspeak. I understand Newspeak. I know what it is like to be a stranger in a strange land. I look and sound like a Harvard PhD but I am just the Village Idiot and don't know how to lie.
Your guest nails it. We all live in tiny fishbowls.
Chris: Thanks for this interview of a courageous young man in the US - not of his dreams but of his nightmares. (And he could in some senses have been writing about the Somali refugee experience here in Australia - fostered in some of its ugliness by politicians of the right such as Peter Dutton - now heading the rump of the LNP here in Australia - but a dog-whistler of some accomplishment whom I hold as personally responsible for some of the tragedies which have resulted. I shall purchase his book. At the same time Chris - late last night - I finished your book The Class. So impressive. I wrote a review for Amazon - as I do for all books I read and which I have purchased via that company, on line. Shocked therefore this morning (Saturday, January 14th) to find that Amazon has rejected my review. I will send you below the bit they have sent back - and add only that I finished up by saying something along the lines of my thinking that you are a saint which you would with reason reject - but that you are a saint within a class/classes of saints - your students/your teachers. Did I use a Latin phrase in my review - the criteria sent by the Amazon people make no sense.
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Our Class: Trauma and Transformation in an American Prison 5-*
from Jim KABLE on 13 January 2023
"with tears in my eyes and hurrahs in my heart" (my heading for the review)
Chris Hedges makes one glad to be a human being for his capacity to paint with words some of the most extraordinarily moving scenes of his students (at the same time his teachers) being taught within New Jersey State Penitentiaries. So proud of their steps along the...
I do not know how to talk to Americans. America is a democracy but not a liberal democracy. I live in a Liberal Democracy. We the people all of the people rule. America is an oligarchy but it is a democratic oligarchy where some rule and some serve.
My wife and I and my Father In Law have donated to the ACLU for five decades and they will not see another sous till they celebrate rather than vilify Bill 21. Regent University is one strange ally in the fight for Civil Liberties.
;Politicians have a job to do.
The must serve we the people not Flying Spaghetti Monsters.
I don't know if America will submit to its Holy Rollers but religion and politic don't mix.
"This nation is like all the others that have been spewed upon this Earth--ready to shout for any cause that will tickle its vanity or fill its pockets. What a hell of a heaven it will be when they get all these hypocrites assemble there."
Mark Twain letter to JH Twitchell 1901.
The only Freedom of Religion is Freedom from religion.
I'm not sure that our racist are afraid of black's revenge for their injustices of the past (many of those whites don't even know the history). Rather, I suspect that they are afraid that black people without the privileges of the whites could be better than themselves.
It is hard being a stranger in a strange land. I am autistic and have always been a stranger. I am always from away and always strange.
When I think of strangers in a strange land I think of strange strangers like Benjamin Franklin, Mark Twain, Groucho Marx and Kinky Freidman, Frederick Douglas and Vlodomyr Zelenskiy. I think of Socrates, Jesus and Diogenes.
Somalia is rather mundane. i've talked to Somalis.
In addition to the racist and racial aspects of this story, I think there were many possibly more important lessons about spirit and resistance and love.
I was absolutely blown away by the discussion of joining the dead, resisting any notion of defeat, and the love of a father and son expressed through language.
These are eternal values we all must get back in touch with.
There is a direct connection
- between brazen DNC + Deep State immense Russia-gate hoax
- and the "unprovoked” US proxy war against CAPITALIST Russia
- and the insane and total support for Nazi-dominated US-puppet government of Ukraine
- while just in CA there are100,000+ homeless citizens living in miles long cardboard and tent shantytowns...
We live in an "Empire of Lies" and are witnessing an orgy of 1%-er thieves
What a stunning interview! Of course, I must quickly get a couple of copies of ‘America Made Me a Black Man’.
It is shocking to realize how little we actually know of our own lives until sheer luck happens to set an alert visitor inside the delusional ‘bubble’ we blithely took for bedrock reality !
Boyah & Chris… helluva’ combination !
-JJ ( electrician @ Detroit near Canada…)
I am autistic. I speak in parables, words have no meaning in America. They are words of Alice's Humpty Dumpty on the other side of The Looking Glass. Democracy only means non autocratic.
George Orwell warned us about Newspeak. I understand Newspeak. I know what it is like to be a stranger in a strange land. I look and sound like a Harvard PhD but I am just the Village Idiot and don't know how to lie.
Your guest nails it. We all live in tiny fishbowls.
When you destroy another's life, you destroy your own. Yes, it comes back massively. Aman.
Chris: Thanks for this interview of a courageous young man in the US - not of his dreams but of his nightmares. (And he could in some senses have been writing about the Somali refugee experience here in Australia - fostered in some of its ugliness by politicians of the right such as Peter Dutton - now heading the rump of the LNP here in Australia - but a dog-whistler of some accomplishment whom I hold as personally responsible for some of the tragedies which have resulted. I shall purchase his book. At the same time Chris - late last night - I finished your book The Class. So impressive. I wrote a review for Amazon - as I do for all books I read and which I have purchased via that company, on line. Shocked therefore this morning (Saturday, January 14th) to find that Amazon has rejected my review. I will send you below the bit they have sent back - and add only that I finished up by saying something along the lines of my thinking that you are a saint which you would with reason reject - but that you are a saint within a class/classes of saints - your students/your teachers. Did I use a Latin phrase in my review - the criteria sent by the Amazon people make no sense.
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Our Class: Trauma and Transformation in an American Prison 5-*
from Jim KABLE on 13 January 2023
"with tears in my eyes and hurrahs in my heart" (my heading for the review)
Chris Hedges makes one glad to be a human being for his capacity to paint with words some of the most extraordinarily moving scenes of his students (at the same time his teachers) being taught within New Jersey State Penitentiaries. So proud of their steps along the...
Stunning interview. Love the humility that he shows himself to possess. Thank you.
Great interview,
Can I change the subject and get to the metaphysics.
There are awards and there are earnings.
America is a land of awards where nothing can be earned.
Those are not my words they belong to everyone that is what Mark Twain said of this world over a century ago.
American just doesn't translate into human.
Twain wrote my Bible.
I do not know how to talk to Americans. America is a democracy but not a liberal democracy. I live in a Liberal Democracy. We the people all of the people rule. America is an oligarchy but it is a democratic oligarchy where some rule and some serve.
Bill21 says politics and religion don't mix
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/bill-21
My wife and I and my Father In Law have donated to the ACLU for five decades and they will not see another sous till they celebrate rather than vilify Bill 21. Regent University is one strange ally in the fight for Civil Liberties.
;Politicians have a job to do.
The must serve we the people not Flying Spaghetti Monsters.
I don't know if America will submit to its Holy Rollers but religion and politic don't mix.
"This nation is like all the others that have been spewed upon this Earth--ready to shout for any cause that will tickle its vanity or fill its pockets. What a hell of a heaven it will be when they get all these hypocrites assemble there."
Mark Twain letter to JH Twitchell 1901.
The only Freedom of Religion is Freedom from religion.
I'm not sure that our racist are afraid of black's revenge for their injustices of the past (many of those whites don't even know the history). Rather, I suspect that they are afraid that black people without the privileges of the whites could be better than themselves.
BRAVO !!
We live in a fascist "Empire of Lies".
Jan. 11 – Ep. 20 -- Dems Rush to Protect FBI/CIA + Buttigieg’s Latest Airline Fiasco w/ David Sirota -- https://rumble.com/v24xze6-dems-rush-to-protect-fbicia-buttigiegs-latest-airline-fiasco-w-david-sirota.html -- Dems Leap to Shield FBI & CIA
It is hard being a stranger in a strange land. I am autistic and have always been a stranger. I am always from away and always strange.
When I think of strangers in a strange land I think of strange strangers like Benjamin Franklin, Mark Twain, Groucho Marx and Kinky Freidman, Frederick Douglas and Vlodomyr Zelenskiy. I think of Socrates, Jesus and Diogenes.
Somalia is rather mundane. i've talked to Somalis.