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Absolutely stunning! I hope the book does really well -- people need to know about this. And it explains so much!

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Been patiently awaiting this very episode. I was in the room at an ICOP event in London where Matt gave Chris a copy of the book and Chris invited Matt to be interviewed. It was this event: https://youtu.be/k4lgsyo-3SE?si=czw90oKmzbZWGekn

I’m also currently reading the book! Can’t wait to listen.

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Probably the most important interview i’ve heard all year. Book on order. Eternal thanks Chris and Matt.

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Interesting but I watched Quebec go in the opposite direction while I lived in English speaking North America. I was born under the Padlock laws in Quebec

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padlock_Law

I dreamed of living in a secular humanist liberal democracy where my handicaps didn't overpower my genius.

I am 75 and autistic and I do not share your history. In fact I will quote Voltaire and say "Perception is real in its consequences. I never saw anything heroic in the America Empire except for the heroes filled with food fit only for bacteria and mold. When it was time to retire my wife and I had decisions to make. We had lived for over a decade in Woodlawn Chicago. Surely everyone has heard of Woodlawn it is where Barrack Obama lost a Democratic primary because he is too conservative. The great thing about being me in Woodlawn I don't know who me is. I think I am a homo sapien and hadn't considered there were other races.

My uncle said why don't you return to Montreal . My wife does not speak French. She attended the University of Chicago and our family is in Florida, North Carolina, Maryland and Illinois.

Here in Quebec corporations have the same rights as Charmin only living things have rights and race, gender and religion are not real.

Eugene V Debs was put in prison for speaking the truth. Mark Twain wrote the Gilded Age and Orson Wells starred in Citizen Kane.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_V._Debs

In 1964 the Ku Klux Klan and Fred C Koch's purchased the GOP and Ronald Reagan for 30 pieces of silver.

https://mashable.com/feature/1964-gop-convention

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_C._Koch

In his time for Choosing Speech Ronald Reagan called the 31 years from FDR to the Civil Rights Act America's worst nightmare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY&t=643s

Any resemblance between Quebec's secular humanist liberal democracy and English North America's obsession with wealth and power is an accident.

Oligarchy is for Empires like America, India, Russia and China.

Quebec is optimistic about the future.

What is meant by spreading Democracy?

I remember The Maine. It was a war of aggression.

When the USA invaded Mexico and stole Texas they re-established slavery which Mexico abolished in 1828 and they made Roman Catholics second class citizens.

When America entered World War One it was based on Woodrow Wilson's Fascist proclivities. The committee on Public Information taught Josef Goebbels everything he needed to know about propaganda.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/845226

There was no discussion of democracy in 1776 it was about sovereignty and right the British gave to Catholics under the Quebec Act of 1774.

We have been in Quebec for almost twenty years and secular humanist liberal democracy is something America should try. Once upon a time you came close but the GOP and the Democrats prevented its success.

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Try telling that to Trudeau....! And anyone who donated to the Trucker protest.....

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Thanks Moe. You don’t know me, you have never read anything i have ever posted except one throw away comment. So ‘way to deduce’....

I’m not american, i love montreal, but i certainly wouldn’t make any claims above 5 eyes Canada being a glowing democracy. Be well, be happy, but I’ll not be engaging with you ever again. Once bitten....

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I was at the trucker protest here in town our anti protest Truckers donated their best wishes and funds to buy the votes of our Fascist truckers and pay to get most of our ignorant fascist truckers out of town they are indeed a small fraction of our truckers. Getting those who love to party and upset the neighbours. away for a couple of days was no burden.. We and Eighty five per cent of our truckers support Legault and Trudeau. We got them as far as Quebec City where OUR government told them where to go. Your media likes smoke not substance. The hiways are under provincial control. Trudeau's government controls the border or whatever control your fascist Empire allows.

I like Chris he loves underdog stories. Our truckers are prosperous and often very educated. You are as usual talking out your ass. The trucker protest was organized by America's right wing injustice seekers in California and the still powerful Fred C Koch's John Birch Society that elected Kevin McCarthy and your media jumped to the bone.

You don't understand anything about Canada. Trudeau's job is to keep Canada together he has only the power of persuasion despite our warped paranoid, ignorant and insane neighbours.

In our little town on the hiway truckers sit on town council, the school board and have real democracy and freedom and you. What kind of power do you exercise in your corporate oligarchy?

Fascist Alberta is run out of Dallas and Houston here in Quebec our truckers are middle class because healthcare, education and human welfare are rights not privileges.

There are books about our 15% they are just as looney as your government. We are a secular humanist liberal democracy.

I know American history something they don't teach AMERICAN PEASANTS.

Canada is not America here in Quebec religion is banned in government, in education and we try to teach our great grandchildren real history.

Alberta is run by YOUR BIBLE BELT and men like Abbott and INSANTIS.

I of course I read Twain, Eugene Victor Debs. and Georges Orwell and I am not unfamiliar with Sheldon Wollin.

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Exceptional interview. Essential information.

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That phenomen has also been described on marxian political economy tradition as " imperialism on highest level of capitalism" or

" state monopoly capitalism" phases originated intern logic of capitalism where state/governement by forcing powers/institutions and new practicies opered for profit benefit only. Happy to have new angles and observation updated

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Nobody Tom,

After following Hedges very closely for the past decade, I just call 'em the way I see 'em ...

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I'm struck by how soft and easy-to-please Hedges' followers are ... they are nothing more than a worthless pack of passive pushovers ... they seem totally content to have St. Chris spoon-feed them their weekly dose of darkness and that's it ... beyond that, they seem to demand nothing of him and Hedges clearly knows this ... as we now stand in the midst of THE most perilous time in human history, they are oblivious to the way he has brazenly gone back on his word by refusing to directly confront tyranny, call out the perpetrators by name and comment on hard news developments ... his followers enthusiastically give him a pass and defend him as a "great journalist" even though he effectively retired with the lockdowns ... I've not seen a single person here express an interest in having him comment on the prime-time issues that dominate independent media discourse ... Hedges has in turn developed a cynical pandemic playbook in which he hides behind the plight of Assange ... and give him credit for finding new ways to exploit the Assange case to maintain his place in the independent media food chain ... this week he did a 2-part interview with Stella at her home, and before that devoted a sermon to Assange ... in the meantime, he has not had a word to say about the Maui "wildfires" or the proposed amendments to the WHO pandemic treaty ... I firmly believe that his peculiar PR strategy is no accident ... I believe he was told by TPTB to "stay in his lane" and I'd also bet the ranch he rolled over for them without a fight ... Hedges' followers comport themselves as true cultists - St. Chris can do no wrong and they can find no fault ... these people are actually classic enablers ... they fail to notice that although he denounces the corporate elites in general terms, Hedges has deftly taken sides with them on the issues of climate change and personal medical autonomy ... Hedges flies in the face of his past principles and like trained clapping seals, his followers robotically respond by saying "gimme more!"

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Someone pee in your cornflakes this morning?

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This is not the place for reporting or commentary on current events. This is a different thing.

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Oh really? ... says who? ...

I've followed this man as closely as anyone for the past decade and I've seen him change with the lockdowns ... there was a time when he did comment on breaking news and current events, but not anymore ...

So please tell Hedges to get the hell off his sanctimonious soapbox ... I've found his positions on the following issues to be real head-scratchers:

DIVISIVENESS - He's always been quick to point out the divisiveness among us, but in his recent May 20 piece on the TRUMP-RUSSIA CONSPIRACY THEORY, he chose to reach deep into his bag of wedge issues to deviously resurrect Trump and MAGA ... Hedges is actually a retired activist since the lockdowns ... he is now repelled by hard news and desperately clings to politically safe issues just to maintain his place in the independent media food chain ... and he will resort to divisive rhetoric whenever it suits him ...

In his otherwise terrific 2021 AMERICAN SADISM speech, he brazenly revealed his disdain for those of us who now openly question the motives and tactics of our elected officials ... shortly after the 44:00m mark, he made the following extremely divisive comment ... he said the loss of the elite's credibility "has given rise to spontaneous groups, as well as the LUNATIC FRINGE that embraces conspiracy theories such as Q-ANON" ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGCFVc-5yTM

I happen to believe that 9/11 was an inside job, so does that make me a member of his lunatic fringe? ... well guess what, Chris Hedges is actually on record as saying as much ... after a 2014 speech, he was asked to comment on 9/11 and insulted our collective intelligence by saying "I don't want to get into conspiracy theories ... Bush was probably just asleep at the wheel" ...

ACCOUNTABILITY - I'd like Chris Hedges to explain why:

1) He refused to stand with the working class against the illegal and unconstitutional mandates and passports ... on this topic he has only said: "it's a tough decision" ...

2) Why he brazenly took sides with big pharma to deftly push the "safe & effective" narrative on us just one month after the explosive FDA FOIA release:

On DEC 2, 2021 ...

The FDA was compelled by a court ruling to release Phizer's internal vax data that revealed 1,223 post-jab deaths and 34,762 adverse events in the first 10 weeks of its trial ... The FDA attempted to delay the full release of this data for 75 years!

And then, just 30 days later ...

On JAN 1, 2022 ...

Chris Hedges made the following comment right here on SubStack on the Krystal Kyle & Friends Podcast (Episode #54) - go to the 1:08:48 mark ...

https://krystalkyleandfriends.substack.com/p/episode-54-audio-chris-hedges#detail

"I don't think we're going to stop the pandemic and mutations until everybody gets vaccinated" ...

He could have said it's a personal decision, but he chose to play it safe and stand with big pharma ...

3) Why he suggested "everybody gets vaccinated" when about 2m after making that comment he actually said he "does not trust Moderna or Phizer" ... clearly, this man did not give a hoot about the consequences ... retired journalists who live with one foot in "their" world and only one foot in our world tend to say things like this ...

I have more, but I'll spare you ...

CENSORSHIP - I am here as a creation of the YouTube algorithm ... YT has been blocking and ghosting my carefully researched criticisms of Chris Hedges for the past two years ... and you might ask yourself why ... why would YT shield an avowed anti-corporate independent media figure from criticism? ... you can draw your own conclusions - I know I've drawn mine ...

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Thank you for sharing.

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What? ...

Then why didn't you give me a LIKE?

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Have a nice day.

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I've followed this man as closely anybody these past 10-12 years ...

I used to love the guy, but not anymore ... he's actually said quite a number of duplicitous things since the lockdowns ... but you people always respond like clapping seals ...

In my world, he's a "straddler" ... he's got one foot in their world and only one foot in our world ... Thomas Frank, Krystal Ball, Saagar Engenti, Briahna Joy Gray, Katie Halper and Hedges ... I could go on, they're all straddlers ...

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Let us review a few more of Chris Hedges revealing quotes:

"Let us stand up and resist so future generations will at least say ‘they tried.’ We cannot do this alone ... together we have a chance" ...

BTW, he has refused to comment on THE GREAT RESET, The World Economic Forum and the book THE FOURTH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION

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In a 2020 interview, he said he told indigenous pipeline protesters to "park your cars in their path, remove the engines and walk away" ...

BTW, he did not even comment on the Canadian trucker convoy until a March 2022 interview with Jimmy Dore - one month after the protests actually ended ....

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From his book WAGES OF REBELLION, he said:

“I do not fight fascists because I will win. I fight fascists because they are fascists” ... If he still believed this, he would have stood with the working class against the mandates and passports ... Chris Hedges changed with the lockdowns ... clearly, he no longer has the fire in his belly ...But tell all the members of his cult not to worry, I'm the only person in this hemisphere who notices such things ...

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