The imprisonment and persecution of Hale and other whistleblowers is all the more sickening, because the real war criminals: Hillary, Obama, Bill, Bush, Cheney, Pelosi, Schumer, etc. walk free.
Morality over the leaking of information related to national security is such a complex topic. First, the pursuit of perfection in war is the enemy of the good. War is always imperfect, but it has to be good enough to prevail. Leaking information can damage the effort to prevail, and even put lives unnecessarily at risk.
However, the press does not really care about the national security aspect these days (in the past there would be some editorial discretion around it) but will publish anything "journalists" think will get them some notoriety or cash. The press hero-worships whistle blowers, but today it is generally only those that fill one side of a political agenda. The press seems more gleeful to harm the nation with leaked reports when it harms one side of politics, but then prone to ignoring or even attacking the leaker of information that would harm the other side of politics. So these are those consideration when assessing the right vs wrong of reported leaks.
Sorry, unprovoked wars for profit. Last time I checked my morality’s compass, waging war is wrong, full stop, but especially for profit. We live under a warmongering technocrat class with zero conscience. The East German stasi had more empathy and integrity than the CIA, or the majority of Congress, for that matter.
You see, that is why you should calm down. I largely agree with this except for the war against the axis powers and the war against Islamic extremist terrorists.
First I feel sorry that Daniel was imprisoned and is left with emotional and psychological residue for his service (PTSD) to his country😔
Perspective:
As I listened to this report,
I wondered if there was an instance when a target was not killed and went on to harm a higher number of westerners.
One such case that immediately sprung to mind was 9/11.
The consequence of that violent event on American soil was ‘ The War on Terror’ polices.
A practice to uphold world order, public safety and democratic values.
Obama:
I wondered if former President, Barack Obama had any regrets about his involvement in instigating the current harsh terms of the espionage act and is it used appropriately.
Drones:
I wasn’t aware that drones are equipmed with weapons that slice people in such a horrific manner.
For innocence to be killed or left maimed in this way is regrettable.
I wonder if drone operators need to sociopathic in nature to do that job for life , as it’s likely the program continues...
What do you mean, Frank Lee, by saying that “The press hero-worships whistle blowers, but today it is generally only those that fill one side of a political agenda.”? What are the alternatives? Whistleblowing or secrecy, surely. You can’t whistleblow for a secrecy agenda. I must be missing something. But your notions seem to ignore the bigger picture, that the National “security” apparatus crowds out truth telling by journalists such as Assange. That’s journalists in prison, not in parentheses.
The ironic thing is that the Trump supporting right has a great deal of sympathy with people like Hale..
But as long as we insist on insulting them and minimizing them we will never work together to reduce the powers of the state both to engage in illegal wars and to punish people trying to do the right thing for the nation.
Churchill once said that during time of war truth is so precious that needs to be protected by bodyguards of lies. My opinion is that there are secrets that need be classified to protect our country (like war technologies and strategies) but, in our democracy we need to be informed of what is doing our governments in our name so we can effectively use our duty to vote.
Hail Mr. Hale and the other whistleblowers mentioned in this report for your true patriotism and good conscience.
I wonder if when the world eventually turns on the US as the pariah like they did during WWII on Germany, the world will take sympathy on the American public who a large portion of which did not agree with the criminal administrations both present and past? Or will thay take a page from WWII and want to genocide the entire American populace like the US (and UK, etc) did to Germany. At the time we outright announced and actively pushesh for eliminating Germany and the Germans. The duplicitous and hypocritical nature of the US has went on for centuries.
In accordance with the rules of engagement is nothing more than the Nazi's defense that all they did was obey their orders. It didn't prevent them from ending up at the end of a rope in Nuremberg and it shouldn't prevent the likes of BIden, Trump, Obama, and Shrub (among others) from winding up at the end of a rope as well. The United States has been committing war crimes and crimes against humanity for years now and has not been called to account for it. The rest of the world has caught up with us. 85% of the world is refusing to impose sanctions on Russia. For those that run around like their hair was on fire and their asses was catchin', there was NO national security issues in our unjustified attacks on Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc etc etc. None of those countries has the means, methods, or opportunities to actually attack the US. But now we're attacking Russia which is a powerful country, unlike the small countries that our vassals have been accustomed to attacking. They can and will bite back. Plus our own stupidity will sink us. Beware.
They're winning an unprovoked war, and will not question fearless leader about anything. They will come to understand reality during the War Crimes trials.
I have never before seen Alex Jones actual video. This one contains demented short videos of Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi, symbols of DNC corruption – one can see why the bipartisan US War party hates and fears Alex Jones.
This is one of the saddest stories I've heard. God Bless Daniel Hale and all the other heroes who hold up what is left of humanity,.
Amen!🙏
The imprisonment and persecution of Hale and other whistleblowers is all the more sickening, because the real war criminals: Hillary, Obama, Bill, Bush, Cheney, Pelosi, Schumer, etc. walk free.
Morality over the leaking of information related to national security is such a complex topic. First, the pursuit of perfection in war is the enemy of the good. War is always imperfect, but it has to be good enough to prevail. Leaking information can damage the effort to prevail, and even put lives unnecessarily at risk.
However, the press does not really care about the national security aspect these days (in the past there would be some editorial discretion around it) but will publish anything "journalists" think will get them some notoriety or cash. The press hero-worships whistle blowers, but today it is generally only those that fill one side of a political agenda. The press seems more gleeful to harm the nation with leaked reports when it harms one side of politics, but then prone to ignoring or even attacking the leaker of information that would harm the other side of politics. So these are those consideration when assessing the right vs wrong of reported leaks.
Whatever, dude. These wars are illegal acts of unprovoked aggression for profit. Fuck your national security right in the ear.
Sorry, unprovoked wars for profit. Last time I checked my morality’s compass, waging war is wrong, full stop, but especially for profit. We live under a warmongering technocrat class with zero conscience. The East German stasi had more empathy and integrity than the CIA, or the majority of Congress, for that matter.
You see, that is why you should calm down. I largely agree with this except for the war against the axis powers and the war against Islamic extremist terrorists.
You have a potty mouth sweet pea. And you should calm down and try to converse like a civilized person.
You should tell that to Dick Cheney, milord. (curtsies)
First I feel sorry that Daniel was imprisoned and is left with emotional and psychological residue for his service (PTSD) to his country😔
Perspective:
As I listened to this report,
I wondered if there was an instance when a target was not killed and went on to harm a higher number of westerners.
One such case that immediately sprung to mind was 9/11.
The consequence of that violent event on American soil was ‘ The War on Terror’ polices.
A practice to uphold world order, public safety and democratic values.
Obama:
I wondered if former President, Barack Obama had any regrets about his involvement in instigating the current harsh terms of the espionage act and is it used appropriately.
Drones:
I wasn’t aware that drones are equipmed with weapons that slice people in such a horrific manner.
For innocence to be killed or left maimed in this way is regrettable.
I wonder if drone operators need to sociopathic in nature to do that job for life , as it’s likely the program continues...
What do you mean, Frank Lee, by saying that “The press hero-worships whistle blowers, but today it is generally only those that fill one side of a political agenda.”? What are the alternatives? Whistleblowing or secrecy, surely. You can’t whistleblow for a secrecy agenda. I must be missing something. But your notions seem to ignore the bigger picture, that the National “security” apparatus crowds out truth telling by journalists such as Assange. That’s journalists in prison, not in parentheses.
Can you provide any information (address) for Daniel so I may send him a letter thanking him for his work?
If you click on his name at the top of the written article below the audio narration it provides a link that has his address.
The ironic thing is that the Trump supporting right has a great deal of sympathy with people like Hale..
But as long as we insist on insulting them and minimizing them we will never work together to reduce the powers of the state both to engage in illegal wars and to punish people trying to do the right thing for the nation.
Churchill once said that during time of war truth is so precious that needs to be protected by bodyguards of lies. My opinion is that there are secrets that need be classified to protect our country (like war technologies and strategies) but, in our democracy we need to be informed of what is doing our governments in our name so we can effectively use our duty to vote.
Hail Mr. Hale and the other whistleblowers mentioned in this report for your true patriotism and good conscience.
I wonder if when the world eventually turns on the US as the pariah like they did during WWII on Germany, the world will take sympathy on the American public who a large portion of which did not agree with the criminal administrations both present and past? Or will thay take a page from WWII and want to genocide the entire American populace like the US (and UK, etc) did to Germany. At the time we outright announced and actively pushesh for eliminating Germany and the Germans. The duplicitous and hypocritical nature of the US has went on for centuries.
In accordance with the rules of engagement is nothing more than the Nazi's defense that all they did was obey their orders. It didn't prevent them from ending up at the end of a rope in Nuremberg and it shouldn't prevent the likes of BIden, Trump, Obama, and Shrub (among others) from winding up at the end of a rope as well. The United States has been committing war crimes and crimes against humanity for years now and has not been called to account for it. The rest of the world has caught up with us. 85% of the world is refusing to impose sanctions on Russia. For those that run around like their hair was on fire and their asses was catchin', there was NO national security issues in our unjustified attacks on Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc etc etc. None of those countries has the means, methods, or opportunities to actually attack the US. But now we're attacking Russia which is a powerful country, unlike the small countries that our vassals have been accustomed to attacking. They can and will bite back. Plus our own stupidity will sink us. Beware.
Thank you for such a good article. Good to know you have a Youtube channel. Subscribed. Thank you!
Dugin targeted as US-Ukraine shadow wars expand – Aug 23, 2022
https://youtu.be/IBO9UElgi5I – Outstanding Grayzone interview
Ukraine is a perfect microcosm of this debate.
So far as the people there are made aware.
They're winning an unprovoked war, and will not question fearless leader about anything. They will come to understand reality during the War Crimes trials.
A very interesting 2017 interview of Alexandr Dugin by Alex Jones
https://theinfowar.tv/watch?id=6302b3279e638f13f99a1c3f
I have never before seen Alex Jones actual video. This one contains demented short videos of Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi, symbols of DNC corruption – one can see why the bipartisan US War party hates and fears Alex Jones.