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WOW - what a succinct concise definitive article. It should be read on national t.v ( if such a thing still existed) in prime time.

Chris Hedges - highly credentialed long time ME bureau chief for NYT, much during this history. Chris Hedges - national treasure.

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..................and the uneducated masses in the US fall for the lies because they have NO understanding of History or Geography.

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Jenny, as the slave owners prevented their slaves from learning to read --- today's Billionaire Bastards are using the schemes of employing the Wasteland of TV, disinformation campaigns, and Neil Postman's 1985 "Amusing Ourselves to Death" -- in order to keep the distracted pseudo-slaves under-educated --- regarding "The Quiet American" Empire behind the curtain.

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I understand what you are saying BUT this has been going on for a LONG time.

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I have long said that Israelis are the new Nazis, but the lies listed here are right out of Hitler's mouth: "the last bastion of civilization in a horde of barbarians."

The lie that Hamas has powerful missiles is right out of the United States: "weapons of mass destruction."

They have proved to the world that they are the new Nazis.

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There’s a solution to the entire mess, it’s simple, straightforward and would guarantee peace in the region but it’s never discussed because that’s not what’s really being sought after. You just have to look at who the major players are and it’s clear why peace is not being sought because that’s not their goal. This much is clear and yet we all stand and watch the same perversity play out time and again (75 years and ongoing still) and never hold our governments responsible for this mess. Instead we’re being propagandized into submission with clear intent and a blueprint that repeats itself. How did we let the war mongers get control of our democracy and have no way to remove them? We somehow have ended up in broken circular reference of apartheids on an infinite loop.

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Wow. So the US intelligence agencies and most of the rest of the world has accepted the explanation that an errant Hamas rocket hit the hospital parking lot, but Chris Hedges is sticking with his opinion that Israel targeted the hospital purposely. I guess once it takes root, hate of a people is a hard habit to break.

I just wonder if Chris and all other Israel haters have done their research on their own real estate holdings or even the places they rent to determine the original righteous claims of ownership identity... so they can give back the land to those rightful owners.

I believe that I understand that Kings David and Solomon conquered and occupied most of what is Israel today prior to the claims of Muslim-Palestinian occupation. So what is the statute of limitations here?

Please, someone tell me of any land on the globe that had not been conquered and occupied by new tribes several times in its history. Ironically it seems the Italians or the Turks could claim rightful ownership of almost all of it.

I think where the world effed up... we should have taken chunks out of Germany or Italy to create the Jewish state. There certainly was a lot of Arab/Muslim support of the anti-jew Nazis and fascists during WWII... despite the furious attempts of the antisemite left to scrub all reporting of it from Wikipedia and Google. But those herding cultures were not yet oil rich and the left was too attracted to them in their global victimology obsession. Germany and Italy, being places of white folk would have been a more acceptable target for those global victimology obsessed.

Interesting that there a quite a few Muslim Arabs living in Israel, but no Jews living in Gaza or the West Bank outside the protected borders of the settlements. But hey, death is warranted for those Jews for failing to understand their danger among those poor and oppressed Palestinians... for being associated with that oppressive Jewish state.

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You are pathetic Frank. No Palestinian missile has killed more than a few people. Israel on the hand have murdered 2000 children and 2000 women. No word on the 12th century Christian Church? Odd it was standing for centuries under Muslim and Ottoman rule and lasted a mere 75 years under Zionist rule. Why aren't US Evangelicals up in arms?

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King David? pretty far stretch to make a claim that what Israel is doing today is excusable- and you blithely say that he CONQUERED the area.

Just because most areas on Earth have been conquered doesn't make it right. How many people does a mass murderer have to kill before his actions are right? It looks a lot different when you put it in those terms.

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I expect you to pack up and leave your house right now as it sits on conquered lands.

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Here is what is fantastically positive and cool. The your radical left tribe's reaction to the Hamas Islamist terrorist murders of all those innocent Israel Jews has snapped awake the moderate normie voters to see the left comrades for what they really are. These moderate normies had been struggling with the slow realization that they had been duped into electing a Walmart greeter for president, and now their heads are all spinning to the right after noting that the power backing the Walmart greeter is comprised of evil blood-thirsty vulnerable narcists that are only pushing their victim-oppressor memes to satiate their luxury virtual signaling addiction to get them more status and power.

Hamas helped show everyone your true colors. Not a good look.

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thank you, Chris. I think I just listed some of these same ideas on HCR website. Wonder what happened to them. and poor President Biden is taken in with them too.

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Yes......poor President Biden!

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Sigh Trudeau was pressured to blame Hamas for the Hospital bombing, to a standing ovation! AHHHGGG Yesterday wheel chair bound, Palestinian/Canadian Sarah Jama was kicked out of the NDP party in the Ontario Legislature for speaking out about the conditions and occupation of Palestine. Forced to make one apology that was not accepted which led to Weaponized Anti Semitism, unleashed in a torrent of accusatory rhetoric, Premier Ford called her Anti Semitic. She may sue, we will see. But her voice has been silenced.

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Ironically Ottawa just approved $22 billion to First Nations. Canada for all its faults they did have a Truth and Reconciliation Commission. Think Israel will?

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I mostly agree but my cynicism of any acknowledgement by Israel of past wrongs will NEVER come to pass. They will rejoice their God Given Right Myth in delirious joy with no self recrimination. With chauvinism against all Goyum. The Palestinian's treatment will be repeated, who will be next is anyone's guess.

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All I have left in Pandora's Jar is hope. Right now I have more hope for Israel and Palestine than I do for Russia or the USA.

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Pardon the Anglo Saxon what the fuck are you going on about?

What the fuck is Abrahamism? Judaism, Islam and Christianity have as many cults as they have people. In Quebec which is where I will die says ALL religion is fantasy.

John Ralston Saul

A Doubter Companion: A Dictionary of Aggressive Common Sense Viking Press 1994

CAPITALISM A concept which has moved beyond the stage of sensible discussion.

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It's appalling what we're capable of 'when God's on our side'.

I trust Chris Hedge's reporting....but must say, this 17 minutes were painful to listen to. I still don't understand why the west is so incredulous and determined to stand by a country that is exposed, over and over and over again, as being, not only its own worst enemy, but the determined enemy of any peaceful solution to the horror that has engulfed Palestine in one shape or other, ever since the west gave them Palestinian land.

Why do so many educated people in the west back a regime that in any other region would be called a dictatorship?? What is it we're all so afraid of and what is it we think we are defending??

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But even that is moronic, given the Palestinians are in all likelihood more Semitic than Jews returning after several centuries in Europe..Say what you will about ethnic supremacy, over time, young people fall in love across and over those lines...and Purity itself goes extinct more quickly than most realize.

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Perhaps not mutt......the connotations are bad. Mutant might work however....as perhaps in periods of rapid change, the species can make astounding leaps forward.

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Jamelle Bouie's

"Millennials and Gen Z Are Tilting Left and Staying There"Chris, IMHO, INEQUALITY in all things is magnetically pulling the young toward Democratic Socialism.

Jamelle Bouie's

"Millennials and Gen Z Are Tilting Left and Staying There”

"Right-on" — whoops, I mean, "Left on".

With somewhere near 16 million new 18 year olds matriculating into potential voters each presidential election cycle — and particularly with the fact that the youngest generations of Americans sense and deplore "Inequality" in all its forms of: age, race, class, income, wealth, and 'agency' since the supposed 'Reagan Revolution' — over the past 12 'Least Worst' voting cycles — which, IMHO, the Gen Zers clearly view as having nothing more than a vision of a ship sliding down into an ocean of vast 'Inequality', pulling them down.

"The Game is Over" in terms of putting a 'happy time spin' on any significant measure of actual 'Equality' in America, and in all its forms.

Only some relief, course correction, and radical change in "The Quiet American" Empire's sinking 'Inequality' will provide any serious improvement.

'Positive Externality Profits' for 'we the people', rather than 'Negative Externality Cost' Looting by the Billionaires is sinking our futures.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Louis+Brandeis+quote+wealth&atb=v187-1&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.azquotes.com%2Fpicture-quotes%2Fquote-we-can-have-democracy-in-this-country-or-we-can-have-great-wealth-concentrated-in-the-louis-d-brandeis-3-47-24.jpg

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As I consider cancelling my subscription to Chris Hedges I ask only one question.

I lived in America for two decades and have yet to visit or live one single community that was completely homogeneous. What is this Israel that Mr Hedges is railing against?

I know some non judgemental people who were born and still live in St Johnsbury of course Lyndonville is a whole other story.

In Canada we put an extra syllable in judgmental.

I spent over decade in Woodlawn where Barrack Obama was deemed too conservative to serve in congress.

I am reminded of the contemporary Canadian Socratic philosopher European economic historian and twice head of PEN International and his The Doubter's Companion: A Dictionary of Aggressive Common Sense. Viking Press 1994

INTELLIGENCE The ruling elites description of its own strengths. It follows that this is the primary measure of SUPERIORITY among humans.

I never went to Harvard I really couldn't do elementary school; I am not a scholastic.

"Where ignorance is bliss t'is folly to be wise." Thomas Gray 1716-1771

Ode on a distant prospect of Eton College.

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What does the homogeneity of the US have to do with what is happening in the Israeli area today? They have totally different histories.

And the US isn't innocent of a racist history, either. We put the Native Americans in their "Gaza strip": we call them "reservations." In Canada they are called "First Nations reserves." Same thing. They are the poorest communities in the US, but at least we haven't been dropping powerful missiles on them.

Finally, our complaint is that Israel WANTS homogeneity in its own country. They don't want Palestinians for citizens.

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Thank you Susan,

Read no further you may not like my truth.

One of my favourite contemporary philosophers is Eugenia Cheng an English philosopher, concert pianist and abstract mathematician.

The Art of Logic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHZKX0H6cUE&t=2s

68 years ago I was deemed a genius in abstract mathematics. Twenty five years ago my wife and an entire faculty of education decided it was time to learn how to write.

You may believe what you are saying but it is largely untrue. I was born 75 years ago in 1984 and it is still 1984 on my calendar.

Did they teach you about Roosevelt and the SS St Louis in 1939?

Hitler used it to justify the Final Solution?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

My wife was born in Nashville and grew up in deep red America. I know why there is wide support for Israel.; America needs a place to send us so my brother Jesus can return. I know my brother Jesus ain't coming back; you Romans made him dead as a doornail.

The American Bible: The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth. Thomas Jefferson 1820

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/why-thomas-jefferson-created-his-own-bible-180975716/

Jefferson understood evolution and even words evolve.

Jefferson called your sacred constitution an abomination.

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I can think of no better reply than John Ralston Saul's definition of democracy

DEMOCRACY An existential system in which words are more important than actions. Not a judgemental system.

The Doubter's Companion: A Dictionary of Aggressive Common Sense John Ralston Saul Viking Press 1994

*In Canada judgemental has an extra syllable

I may be an idiot but they said I was a linguistic genius 68 years ago..

Religion

1789 Definition

Samuel Johnson's Dictionary 1755

https://johnsonsdictionaryonline.com/img/words/f1773-religion-1.png

those strange fs are eses

Note in 1789 Judaism was the opposite of religion.

Paul Robeson Kaddish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg7KTiR4WdY

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No shit. Do you think you alone are party to this information. I live in Quebec where all religion is considered fantasy and only science is taught as science. In Quebec race and gender are considered human fantasy .

Would you like to buy a church? Ours are all for sale because even your religion is considered fantasy.

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I live in Quebec 80% of us think religion is fantasy. When our Provincial Prime Minister suggested Roman Catholicism wasn't all bad he was forced to either resign or apologize. The only people in our closets are politicians praying to their deities.

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Sure Moe do Curly and Larry agree? Their old "Niagara Falls" skit carried out when the hear GAZA "Slowly I turn step by step I Kick Them Out, punch them, kick them, torture them, beat them, shoot them, bomb them and ethnically cleanse them with a Genocide". Today Blinkety Blinken asked "where is the outrage" for Oct 7? Without a blink he described beheading, burnings and inhumanity 2 weeks ago. Not one word of OUTRAGE for those in Gaza or the West Bank murdered since then, every day, yesterday, today and tomorrow. Not one word of outrage for the month old quintuplets and their mother murdered under IDF bombs! Just now Jake Tapper said Hamas was still trying to demolish Israel with "Missiles". LOL. When Hamas released hostages the ticker said "It was Hell", then sheepishly revealed they treated her humanely. How many Palestinian's are so lucky under IDF Occupation?

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Thanks Jim,

I have 25 years of comments requesting a one or two state solution and the pros and cons I only started to learn how to write when I was fifty. I lived in Canada's Northwest Territories. There are many sovereign nations in Canada's Northwest Territories including Yellowknife the Capital.

I watched government by consensus and we can't find a one or two state solution.

We call ourselves civilized.

From The Doubter's Companion: A Dictionary of Aggressive Common Sense John Ralston Saul Viking 1994

CIVILIZATION

The single and shortest definition maybe the word LANGUAGE.

This is not to suggest that images or music are of lesser importance. It is simply that they have more to do with the unconscious. They are somehow part of the metaphysics and religion. Civilization , if it means something concrete, is the conscious but unprogrammed mechanism by which humans communicate. And through communication they live with each other, think create and act. See DOUBT

John Ralston Saul 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv_zHl3Vw9o

Chris needs to listen to John Ralston Saul in 2023

For what it's Worth

Nobody is right if everybody is wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80_39eAx3z8

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Orwell in his Notes on nationalism

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/notes-on-nationalism/

says Israel will become a fascist state. Orwell wasn't a prophet he knew what over 2000 years of training would do. There are synagogues in Crimea that predate the immaculate conception.

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Thanks Jon,

Woowie Zoowie and Swoosh. I couldn't have written a better response in a million years.

That is exactly what I am talking about!!!!!

In Judaism there is only life. There is no eternity.

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What the fuck is a moderate Jew? I was a Jew but in Quebec there is no longer such a thing as A Jew, an Atheist, a negro, an oriental a male or a female. We are citizens in Quebec's society don't try to inflict your stupidity upon me. Eighty percent of Quebecers support Bill 21. I am one of the eighty percent when I was born my father was a small minority of Jews and others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padlock_Law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_respecting_the_laicity_of_the_State

1957-2019 IS 62 YEARS NOT AN ETERNITY.

EVOLUTION TAKES TIME

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My father was a Zionist as am I but I am a Globalist and only humans are holy and the land is our responsibility not our possessor. My great grandfather was a Zionist before Israel was a concept and Zion was anywhere from Tierra del Fuego to Baffin Island and all points in between.

Zion is a place of refuge for all people.

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“Dehistorizing Oct 7” is a fine lecture given by Professor Llan Pappé at UC-Berkeley. See consortiumnews.com. He explained that one pillar of Zionism is the elimination of Palestinians from Israel. Which Israel has been carrying out since Ben-gurion set up the map for the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by war and through the arrest and or removal of individuals and families. His depiction of the daily Palestinian experience of Israeli’s dehumanizing treatment drops a heavy stone into your gut.

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Read with respect and compassion history of warsow ghetto and its minor appraisal and massive revenge. While reading keep in your mind what has been and is ongoing in Gaza and imagine solutions presented and "justifications" set by mainstream stenografed media for necessity of massive destroing "levelling and digging them out and forcing next camp.." I know that is unfair, but try for once, allow yourself only think we all are humans same specie after all and doomed to try to live and share this tellus humanly, not concure and deny.

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Is the callousness, outright cruelty, lying, arrogance and bully behavior (sociopathic) the Zionist Israelis are exhibiting for the world to see today occasioned by having their own national identity? Or did it characterize the extremist element of the Jews historically?

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I know who I am speaking to on this site.

John Ralston Saul defined intelligence in his A Doubter Companion: A Dictionary of Aggressive Common Sense Viking Press 1994

INTELLIGENCE The ruling elite's description of its own strengths. It follows that this is the primary measure of SUPERIORITY among humans.

Today I listened to John Ralston Saul in conversation on this year's Glenn Gould Foundation conversations.

Over two hours of Socratic conversation with the world's premier Socratic Philosopher on Press Freedom and Western Civilization. Let us forgive Chris his trespasses and start with the metaphysics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv_zHl3Vw9o

Western Civilization?

I am 75 and had a brain orgasm. Sir John is older than I am by a year and is larger than ever.

We have delayed for months sending a close friend a copy of Rudy Wiebe's Big Bear. We are feeble and feeble minded and the Post Office is a trek less than 10 minutes away by car.

One of the wonders of being a mystic not a scholastic is reading Irving Layton's The Covenant 1977 McClelland and Stewart and reading his poem dedicated to the wife of Sir John Ralston Saul. Sometimes perceptions are just perceptions and perceptions become our own personal reality.

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Israel was delivered from Egyptian enslavement by the collaboration of the Lord God and Moses and guided to Mt. Sinai where an eternal covenant was constituted that grounded Israel in God's law. Today, throughout its years in Palestine Israel has rejected this legacy, this divine heritage that established it as God's chosen people, as declared by Moses in Deuteronomy 32:8-9. Although Israel continues to identify itself with this origin, its transgressions of its covenantal law, its lies, its deceit, its vengeance, its genocide contradict its identity, while at the same time Israel fantasizes that it is still God's unique people and deserves to be acknowledged as such. But as in Isaiah's time, God is hiding his face from the house of Jacob. Isaiah was warned by Yahweh, "Do not walk in the way of this people, and do not call conspiracy all that this people call conspiracy." Is God still the God of Israel?

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For Israel to become normal it is required another miracle like the parting of the Red Sea for them to be able to cross. In other words, it is impossible.

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I would call it a resistance to be murdered

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