What is it about the USA today that has us willfully participating in a genocide? What are the qualities of our society today that have kindled the evil we are doing? We once sacrificed our men so that the destruction of a population would end. Now we are throwing money at an apartheid country to starve to death a population of those people not already being murdered by our USA made and delivered bombs. Neither Washington Senators Cantwell and Murray have set up a howl for the strangulation of USA aid to Israel. Neither inform their constituents their rationale for such abject pitiless passivity. They act as though they are not beholden to their constituents. A clear breach of their constitutional obligation to us as representatives of the citizenry voice.
Holodomor was covered up by Stalin but he did the same thing to the Ukrainians in 1933-34. It is estimated 5-7 million Ukrainians starved to death. It was a holocaust that was buried beneath the politics of the era. Lookup Gareth Jones, full name Gareth Richard Vaughan Jones. He was banned from re-entering the Soviet Union due to his honest and eye witness account of the mass starvation. Jones was kidnapped and murdered in 1935 while investigating in Japanese-occupied Inner Mongolia; his murder is suspected by some to have been committed by the Soviet secret police, the NKVD. There should be no repeat of this, but it has been repeated in smaller number and too often. BTW: Did you know these little known figures designed and implemented the mass murder of non-jews: Russian Holocaust, Lev Bronstein Trotsky; Ukrainian Holocaust (Holodomore), Lazar Kaganovich; Kazakh Holocaust,Fillip Goloshchyokin; Armenian Holocaust, Talaat Pasha. They were all Jews. So genocide was delivered and hardly acknowledged, but is well represented as a tool against others in the history of the Jews.
It makes me sick when I see people dancing for joy over other people's misfortune and death.
It makes me sick when an army equipped with the most modern weapons destroys civilian infrastructure for no reason other than the destruction of their enemy's ability to live.
It makes me even sicker to hear all the excuses and silly explanations for why people have to die for no reason other than being on the wrong side of the prison wall.
It is impossible to avoid feeling desperation at not being able to do anything to stop the killing - I often think if it was possible to make a peace march from Europe to Israel - I want to be a human shield for those children...and women and old men and grandmothers .. yes all of them.
None of this had to happen if we did not have terrorist sympathizers empowering Hamas to murder, rape and kidnap innocent Jews.
None of the atrocities in 1930s and 40s Germany had to happen if we had not had Nazi terrorist sympathizers empowering the murder, rape and kidnapping of innocent Jews.
There is a common theme here... those that sympathize with terrorism. THEY are the cause of the continued conflict.
Chris Hedges' indulgent affair with all things Gaza just eclipsed the 4-month mark ...
With this audio, I now count 63 pieces posted here since OCT 7 and only 3 dealing with issues other than the ISR-Palestinian conflict ... and when you then consider the ways he has distanced himself from the struggles of middle class Americans since the MAR '20 lockdowns, one must ask why "we the people" are no longer on his radar ... an unemployed, divorced mother of four never gives a thought to Gaza, Assange and CIA corruption - and Hedges knows it!
Even as an American suburbanite I can relate to this article. I watched my father die from stomach cancer. He could not eat and wasted away from starvation. That’s what I have to fix on, this memory from 55 years ago, when I consider this genocide and its reality.
In Gaza, anger grows at Hamas along with fury at Israel
RAFAH, Gaza Strip — "Hamas ... has destroyed us," says Adnan Abdelaal, who has fled for safety four times in the past four months of war.
First, he escaped Israeli bombing on his Gaza City neighborhood. Then he sheltered in a United Nations school until it was hit 40 days later. Then he fled to central Gaza, then farther south to Khan Younis, then even farther south to Rafah, escaping each time the Israeli military got closer.
He is in the same clothes he has worn for the past month, living out of a backpack and searching every night for a new place to sleep.
"I don't know if they thought about it, and what would happen to us," Abdelaal says about Hamas' decision to attack Israel on Oct. 7. "We didn't receive any warning to leave."
Hamas has not tolerated dissent among Gazans in the 17 years it has ruled the tiny territory, choked by an Israeli-led blockade. But dissent against the Islamist militant group is now widespread and out in the open, voiced alongside Gazans' fury with Israel.
"Enough Israel, enough Hamas," Abdelaal says.
Cheers rang out on the streets of Rafah this week after Hamas said it responded in a "positive spirit" to a proposal for a cease-fire. But Hamas still drew criticism from some Gazans, for submitting a host of demands for shaping Gaza's reconstruction and future.
"We are not happy with their reply at all," says Jamal, who did not want to use his full name to avoid retribution from Hamas. He lost his home to Israeli bombing in Gaza City and is sheltering in Rafah. "Hamas is focusing mostly on remaining on the chair, ruling Gaza mainly. Because they don't care about people in Gaza, they don't care about their suffering."
Why Gazans have protested
Several demonstrations have taken place in recent weeks in Gaza, expressing frustration with Hamas over the war. At a demonstration in the city of Khan Younis, Palestinian protesters singled out the leaders of Israel and Hamas.
"Netanyahu and Sinwar, enough war and enough destruction," they chanted, in a protest captured on film and shared on social media. "The people demand a cease-fire."
Hamas' popularity has soared in the other Palestinian territory, the West Bank, since the war began. In past Israel-Hamas wars, Gazans under bombardment also rallied around Hamas for standing up to years of Israeli oppression. But this war is different.
It's the deadliest conflict Palestinians have faced in their history, coupled with Israel's large-scale destruction of homes and infrastructure across Gaza. About 85% of the population, according to the U.N., have now fled their homes and are sheltering in tents, schools and overcrowded buildings.
Many in Gaza liken it to the foundational Arab-Israeli war of 1948 and the mass Palestinian displacement that came with the establishment of Israel, what Palestinians call the Nakba, Arabic for catastrophe.
Some Hamas supporters say the group miscalculated
Hamas still has supporters in Gaza. A recent poll found 57% of Gazans support Hamas' decision to attack on Oct. 7. Most of the Palestinians surveyed said they had not seen the videos of Hamas' attacks on Israelis that day and didn't think Hamas committed atrocities.
But even supporters of Hamas launching the attack say the group misjudged the consequences.
Abdelsalam Al-Ghoul, a 30-year-old Palestinian who fled his home in Gaza, called Hamas' attack an "honorable act" against Israeli oppression, but says Hamas "greatly misjudged the situation," because Iran and Hezbollah, the powerful Iran-backed militia in Lebanon, didn't join the attack, diminishing its results.
He criticizes Hamas for preparing its fighters for the war, without preparing its civilians.
"The resistance says it's ready for rounds of combat for months and years," Al-Ghoul says. "So are we, but provide us with our daily bread, so we resist together."
It takes hours to wait in bread lines at bakeries, which are short on flour, fuel and cooking gas.
"[Hamas] should give consideration to their people," says Suheir Safi, amid the wafting smoke of a mud oven, where Palestinians baked bread near a tent. "Every shepherd is responsible for his flock."
On Facebook, many Gazans have been alluding to their frustration with Hamas' leader Yahya Sinwar.
"A captain takes the ship to where the people want. A pirate takes the ship to where he wants," Sami Allhelou wrote.
"An entire generation in Gaza never saw a tank in their lives. The crazy man brought the tanks to the center of the refugee camp because of stupidity," Mohanad Mehrez wrote.
But Hamas still maintains a fighting presence on the battlefield, and has even reasserted itself as a governing force, paying partial salaries to civil servants and sending police officers to patrol in areas where Israeli troops have withdrawn.
Sinwar, the Hamas leader whom Israel has vowed to kill, remains alive, in hiding, leading negotiations with Israel for a hostage-prisoner exchange and cease-fire.
"Hamas, they consider that they are the winner in this war," says Tholfikar Swairjo, a pharmacist in Gaza who was previously a leader in the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a leftist Palestinian political faction. "They didn't lose the war because ... until now, Hamas is Hamas."
The "bigger war," Swairjo says, is what Hamas will face after the fighting is over: the colossal task of rebuilding a decimated Gaza. Hamas cannot do that without international cooperation.
This is the fifth war Hamas and Israel have fought since Hamas took over Gaza. The U.S., Qatar and Egypt are now involved in negotiations over what the future Palestinian leadership would look like when the war is over.
To move forward, Swairjo thinks Hamas will have to change from an outlier opposition force to a participant in the internationally recognized Palestinian movement, the Palestine Liberation Organization, or PLO, which is committed to the goal of an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel.
"Hamas, they are smart enough to understand what's happening and what is coming in the future. Because of that, they will change," Swairjo says. "People will obligate them to change ... they will not accept to have another war, another catastrophe. People will not accept to continue this forever."
That includes Swairjo himself. He has lost his main pharmacy, his livelihood, his house and his father's house to Israeli bombings in the last four months.
"I lost everything," he says. "I want Hamas to do something for me."
I am sickened to know that we have stood behind and supported what has turned out to be the starvation of innocent children and civilians.
Destruction of Hamas is justifiable.
Netanyahu has gone too far. Destroy Hamas is one thing, destroy an entire society is totally another.
It is impossible to justify the kill ratio and the slaughter to the children and innocents in Gaza.
What is it about the USA today that has us willfully participating in a genocide? What are the qualities of our society today that have kindled the evil we are doing? We once sacrificed our men so that the destruction of a population would end. Now we are throwing money at an apartheid country to starve to death a population of those people not already being murdered by our USA made and delivered bombs. Neither Washington Senators Cantwell and Murray have set up a howl for the strangulation of USA aid to Israel. Neither inform their constituents their rationale for such abject pitiless passivity. They act as though they are not beholden to their constituents. A clear breach of their constitutional obligation to us as representatives of the citizenry voice.
If Hamas is to be dismantled, dismantle Israel 10x, talk about hostages?
https://youtube.com/shorts/Sfm4VjXt6iU?si=3p0Jf_s4_hzVk4CW Norman Finkelstein:
Holodomor was covered up by Stalin but he did the same thing to the Ukrainians in 1933-34. It is estimated 5-7 million Ukrainians starved to death. It was a holocaust that was buried beneath the politics of the era. Lookup Gareth Jones, full name Gareth Richard Vaughan Jones. He was banned from re-entering the Soviet Union due to his honest and eye witness account of the mass starvation. Jones was kidnapped and murdered in 1935 while investigating in Japanese-occupied Inner Mongolia; his murder is suspected by some to have been committed by the Soviet secret police, the NKVD. There should be no repeat of this, but it has been repeated in smaller number and too often. BTW: Did you know these little known figures designed and implemented the mass murder of non-jews: Russian Holocaust, Lev Bronstein Trotsky; Ukrainian Holocaust (Holodomore), Lazar Kaganovich; Kazakh Holocaust,Fillip Goloshchyokin; Armenian Holocaust, Talaat Pasha. They were all Jews. So genocide was delivered and hardly acknowledged, but is well represented as a tool against others in the history of the Jews.
It makes me sick when I see people dancing for joy over other people's misfortune and death.
It makes me sick when an army equipped with the most modern weapons destroys civilian infrastructure for no reason other than the destruction of their enemy's ability to live.
It makes me even sicker to hear all the excuses and silly explanations for why people have to die for no reason other than being on the wrong side of the prison wall.
It is impossible to avoid feeling desperation at not being able to do anything to stop the killing - I often think if it was possible to make a peace march from Europe to Israel - I want to be a human shield for those children...and women and old men and grandmothers .. yes all of them.
Stop the killing..
Thank you Chris Hedges..
The last Hamas soldier will hide in the last refugee camp,
giving the Israelis the excuse to kill the last Palestinians,
achieving their objective of extinction and ending the Gaza War,
but beginning the war with the Muslim nations☠️☠️☠️
It just might be that the destruction of an entire people with deliberate malice aforethought with the
None of this had to happen if we did not have terrorist sympathizers empowering Hamas to murder, rape and kidnap innocent Jews.
None of the atrocities in 1930s and 40s Germany had to happen if we had not had Nazi terrorist sympathizers empowering the murder, rape and kidnapping of innocent Jews.
There is a common theme here... those that sympathize with terrorism. THEY are the cause of the continued conflict.
How much is enough? ...
Chris Hedges' indulgent affair with all things Gaza just eclipsed the 4-month mark ...
With this audio, I now count 63 pieces posted here since OCT 7 and only 3 dealing with issues other than the ISR-Palestinian conflict ... and when you then consider the ways he has distanced himself from the struggles of middle class Americans since the MAR '20 lockdowns, one must ask why "we the people" are no longer on his radar ... an unemployed, divorced mother of four never gives a thought to Gaza, Assange and CIA corruption - and Hedges knows it!
Jack Maxey needs a better interview where he is allowed to speak all he knows.
https://rumble.com/veb71f-jack-maxey-on-the-contents-of-hunters-laptop-and-why-it-matters-to-every-am.html
Americans need to be aware of the huge criminal element sitting at the top of our government probably being blackmailed by the CIA.
https://rumble.com/veb71f-jack-maxey-on-the-contents-of-hunters-laptop-and-why-it-matters-to-every-am.html
Even as an American suburbanite I can relate to this article. I watched my father die from stomach cancer. He could not eat and wasted away from starvation. That’s what I have to fix on, this memory from 55 years ago, when I consider this genocide and its reality.
Thank you for a eloquent narration and glimpse into current and past atrocities and horrors, people don’t like to discuss.
Hi All,
Does anyone have ideas of how an average American can help the people of Gaza?
Excerpts from
NPR
February 10, 2024
In Gaza, anger grows at Hamas along with fury at Israel
RAFAH, Gaza Strip — "Hamas ... has destroyed us," says Adnan Abdelaal, who has fled for safety four times in the past four months of war.
First, he escaped Israeli bombing on his Gaza City neighborhood. Then he sheltered in a United Nations school until it was hit 40 days later. Then he fled to central Gaza, then farther south to Khan Younis, then even farther south to Rafah, escaping each time the Israeli military got closer.
He is in the same clothes he has worn for the past month, living out of a backpack and searching every night for a new place to sleep.
"I don't know if they thought about it, and what would happen to us," Abdelaal says about Hamas' decision to attack Israel on Oct. 7. "We didn't receive any warning to leave."
Hamas has not tolerated dissent among Gazans in the 17 years it has ruled the tiny territory, choked by an Israeli-led blockade. But dissent against the Islamist militant group is now widespread and out in the open, voiced alongside Gazans' fury with Israel.
"Enough Israel, enough Hamas," Abdelaal says.
Cheers rang out on the streets of Rafah this week after Hamas said it responded in a "positive spirit" to a proposal for a cease-fire. But Hamas still drew criticism from some Gazans, for submitting a host of demands for shaping Gaza's reconstruction and future.
"We are not happy with their reply at all," says Jamal, who did not want to use his full name to avoid retribution from Hamas. He lost his home to Israeli bombing in Gaza City and is sheltering in Rafah. "Hamas is focusing mostly on remaining on the chair, ruling Gaza mainly. Because they don't care about people in Gaza, they don't care about their suffering."
Why Gazans have protested
Several demonstrations have taken place in recent weeks in Gaza, expressing frustration with Hamas over the war. At a demonstration in the city of Khan Younis, Palestinian protesters singled out the leaders of Israel and Hamas.
"Netanyahu and Sinwar, enough war and enough destruction," they chanted, in a protest captured on film and shared on social media. "The people demand a cease-fire."
Hamas' popularity has soared in the other Palestinian territory, the West Bank, since the war began. In past Israel-Hamas wars, Gazans under bombardment also rallied around Hamas for standing up to years of Israeli oppression. But this war is different.
It's the deadliest conflict Palestinians have faced in their history, coupled with Israel's large-scale destruction of homes and infrastructure across Gaza. About 85% of the population, according to the U.N., have now fled their homes and are sheltering in tents, schools and overcrowded buildings.
Many in Gaza liken it to the foundational Arab-Israeli war of 1948 and the mass Palestinian displacement that came with the establishment of Israel, what Palestinians call the Nakba, Arabic for catastrophe.
Some Hamas supporters say the group miscalculated
Hamas still has supporters in Gaza. A recent poll found 57% of Gazans support Hamas' decision to attack on Oct. 7. Most of the Palestinians surveyed said they had not seen the videos of Hamas' attacks on Israelis that day and didn't think Hamas committed atrocities.
But even supporters of Hamas launching the attack say the group misjudged the consequences.
Abdelsalam Al-Ghoul, a 30-year-old Palestinian who fled his home in Gaza, called Hamas' attack an "honorable act" against Israeli oppression, but says Hamas "greatly misjudged the situation," because Iran and Hezbollah, the powerful Iran-backed militia in Lebanon, didn't join the attack, diminishing its results.
He criticizes Hamas for preparing its fighters for the war, without preparing its civilians.
"The resistance says it's ready for rounds of combat for months and years," Al-Ghoul says. "So are we, but provide us with our daily bread, so we resist together."
It takes hours to wait in bread lines at bakeries, which are short on flour, fuel and cooking gas.
"[Hamas] should give consideration to their people," says Suheir Safi, amid the wafting smoke of a mud oven, where Palestinians baked bread near a tent. "Every shepherd is responsible for his flock."
On Facebook, many Gazans have been alluding to their frustration with Hamas' leader Yahya Sinwar.
"A captain takes the ship to where the people want. A pirate takes the ship to where he wants," Sami Allhelou wrote.
"An entire generation in Gaza never saw a tank in their lives. The crazy man brought the tanks to the center of the refugee camp because of stupidity," Mohanad Mehrez wrote.
But Hamas still maintains a fighting presence on the battlefield, and has even reasserted itself as a governing force, paying partial salaries to civil servants and sending police officers to patrol in areas where Israeli troops have withdrawn.
Sinwar, the Hamas leader whom Israel has vowed to kill, remains alive, in hiding, leading negotiations with Israel for a hostage-prisoner exchange and cease-fire.
"Hamas, they consider that they are the winner in this war," says Tholfikar Swairjo, a pharmacist in Gaza who was previously a leader in the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a leftist Palestinian political faction. "They didn't lose the war because ... until now, Hamas is Hamas."
The "bigger war," Swairjo says, is what Hamas will face after the fighting is over: the colossal task of rebuilding a decimated Gaza. Hamas cannot do that without international cooperation.
This is the fifth war Hamas and Israel have fought since Hamas took over Gaza. The U.S., Qatar and Egypt are now involved in negotiations over what the future Palestinian leadership would look like when the war is over.
To move forward, Swairjo thinks Hamas will have to change from an outlier opposition force to a participant in the internationally recognized Palestinian movement, the Palestine Liberation Organization, or PLO, which is committed to the goal of an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel.
"Hamas, they are smart enough to understand what's happening and what is coming in the future. Because of that, they will change," Swairjo says. "People will obligate them to change ... they will not accept to have another war, another catastrophe. People will not accept to continue this forever."
That includes Swairjo himself. He has lost his main pharmacy, his livelihood, his house and his father's house to Israeli bombings in the last four months.
"I lost everything," he says. "I want Hamas to do something for me."
"What happens if he has a knife in his pocket…"
https://youtu.be/DjihuT-R94E?t=403