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"Nothing is off limits. Hospitals. Mosques. Churches. Homes. Apartment blocks. Refugee camps. Schools. Universities. Media offices. Banks. Sewer systems. Telecommunications infrastructure. Water treatment plants. Libraries. Wheat mills. Bakeries. Markets. Entire neighborhoods. Israel’s intent is to destroy Gaza’s infrastructure and daily kill or wound hundreds of Palestinians. Gaza is to become a wasteland, a dead zone that will be incapable of sustaining life."

All of this is entirely intentional, as the recent article in the Israeli publication +972 confirms.

The question remains - what is anyone going to do about it?

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Do about it? The "elites" will benefit financially, and by the time they are up for election, most of the normie nod-alongs will have shrugged it off.

Because most people are watching this like it's a tv show for their entertainment, opportunities to pontificate about the propaganda they drink down like the alcohol that helps them deal with their miserable, worthless lives. I am there, you are there, among these fuckwits - family and "friends" alike. I had hope that word would spread, that eyes would open. Nope.

They will wait for the next episode. They will do nothing.

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Can anyone do anything about it, except the people running Israel and the people running HAMAS? The UN is going to invade GAZA and Israel? What if HAMAS had released all the hostages yesterday? We’ll never know. But what looks crystal clear to me is, this is the result HAMAS wanted when it launched the October 7 attack.

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Which makes Palestinians, including children who don't even know what Hamas is, acceptable collateral damage? There is no justification for what we're witnessing, none.

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I completely agree with you - there is no justification; yet, this is what HAMAS hoped would happen, to destroy Israel’s reputation. HAMAS views the dead and wounded Gazans as martyrs for HAMAS’ cause. When HAMAS was founded, its stated intent was to destroy Israel. It’s a religious war, and I don’t see any solution for as long as Israel exists in Palestine. The American Christian right and even the left back Israel’s right to exist. And, that’s Christendom’s Holy Land, where Jesus was born and crucified at the behest of Jewish leaders. They want Israel to protect their Holy Land, and they really believe God promised that land to Israel, because their Bible says so.

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Israel is the one dropping the bombs, not your preferred culture war enemies, reprehensible as their support is.

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I don’t like either side, but this is what HAMAS hoped would happen, and so I blast them, too, and I blast people who don’t blast them, too :-)

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so, Mr. Bashinsky, had a block of Jewish prisoners in Buckenvald concentration camp managed to overcome their captors, escaped and mowed down every German on sight, you'd view them as you view Hamas?

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Dec 2, 2023·edited Dec 2, 2023

Assumes facts not in evidence.

A damning new report from +972 Magazine published on Thursday exposes how Israel has been deliberately striking civilian targets in Gaza as a matter of policy because they believe it will “lead civilians to put pressure on Hamas.” It makes it clear that the IDF is very much aware of where the civilians are, and that when they kill children it’s because they calculated that it would be strategically worthwhile to do so.

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Blast me please, S. Bashinsky I will consider it a medal of honor because I love HAMAS the same that I would have the rebels in the Warsaw ghetto. Besides, the West Bank accepted Israel right to exist and they are also being slaughter by the Israelis.

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And Israel was ready and willing to turn the Palestinians into martyrs, great teamwork if what you said is true.

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Do you think any of this would be happening, if HAMAS had not done what it did on October 7? Do seriously think HAMAS did not know how Israel would respond? The October 7 attack was bait, plain and simple. Israel took the bait. If I were a Gazan citizen, still living, I would be really pissed off at HAMAS and Israel.

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Numerous Israeli officials have been clearly stating their intentions toward Palestine and Palestinians since long before the Hamas provocation. Acting like Israel's current acts of brutality would not be occurring had the Oct. 7th attack not happened is unbelievably dishonest, the most you can claim is that it might not be occurring *right now*. I wouldn't feel warm fuzzies toward Hamas if I were Gazan but I would hate with the heat of ten thousand suns the people dropping bombs on me, destroying my home and killing my friends and relatives.

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We should put a a tight leash on AIPAC - somehow someway. Were AIPAC a Chinese or Russian organization, its spiggot would have been throttled long since. Why and how are we allowing a foreign government via its American representatives to influence our elections?

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Lord, Biden could end this with a phone call.

If he wanted to.

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He could try to end it with a phone call, but do you really think Israel would fold?

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Dec 2, 2023·edited Dec 2, 2023

They would have no choice. The US not only provides material support but also strongarms any criticism of Israel.

That said, the point is academic

Because Biden doesn't even try.

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I wish he would try, and I think the fellow leading Israel might tell Biden to chill, if he wanted to keep breathing :-)

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Bull.

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Note that Biden did in the past end it with a phone call. As recently as 2021.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-smothered-netanyahu-with-love-to-hasten-end-of-2021-gaza-war-book-reveals/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Strangely, Biden was not harmed by these "religious fanatics".and MAGA that you find lurking behind every rock, tree and bush.

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Its way past time for playing the blame game....but it might be interesting to look at all the evidence before you comply with the absurd propoganda that this is a war between Hamas and Israel.

I know. It worked for the good ol US of A after the world trade bombing. The major world empire dumps tons of bombs on the civilian populations where Bush the Lessor claimed the terrorists were seeking asylum. Starting with Iraq....which was a neighbour of Saudi Arabia....but had 0 to do with the attack.

Whatever Hamas did on Oct 7................the children of Gaza had little power to stop it. And whether or not Hamas was suicidal in its actions.......does not justify one of the most heavily armed countries in the middle east (thanks to Amerikan dollars) carpet bombing civilian refugee camps and an entire people held captive by that same state.

THE BLAME GAME IS SO SIMPLE AND STUPID...why not do a bit of actual research before you resort to it??

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The October 7 attack was bait to get Israel to come after HAMAS in Gaza. Israel took the bait. Here we are.

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Overly simple conclusions are easy to draw once you eliminate all the history of the conflict.

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This was the result ISRAEL wanted when it knowingly permitted these attacks, and then sent in its own air attacks to drive up the body count of civilians.

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If we in the USA got off our duffs, organized organized organized and got a couple thousands of people to show up at the White House/Capitol....something can be done....contact Shawn Fain, President of the UAW - I bet he'd have a thought or seven about how to go about making a serious imprint in D.C....Contact Christian Smalls who did the impossible by organizing Amazon's workers in Long Island...Contact Vets for Peace...bet they'd have a few ideas....

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Jihad will be the response. Holy war will come from Arabs and Persians. Others might join in.

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So far, the Arabs and Persians are limiting their response to talk.

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The last talk I heard was Iran warning Israel not to resume bombing.

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Yup, and Israel ignored it, safe thst its American thug is on its side.

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That's the Great Satan, whose enemies are too numerous to be counted.

Iran is now a superpower. It might sucker punch the enemy. Just saying.

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I hate to say this, truly, but I will. My father who escaped the Third Reich in a shipping crate, lost his own father at Dachau. Later, he was present as the Israelis destroyed Arab villages and stole their country. He left in 1950, disgusted. Years later he told me, (and the thought was not unique to him), that if the Jews had not been Hitler’s victims, they would have been his most enthusiastic aids.

It’s a terrible thought, but he would not I suppose, be surprised by what Mr. Hedges describes here.

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Sera, I'm trying to grasp the conclusion to your interesting post. You're making a parallel between the Holocaust victims and the Israeli Jews? IF the Jews hadn't been victims?

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I take it that her father saw in the Zionists, similar behaviors....the willingness to do whatever it takes to remove some 'other' is likely not restricted to fascists...Italians or Germans.

It cropped up again in the worst tendencies of Zionism.

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And in many cases, more European in their attitudes and behaviors........then Semitic. Whatever their original ethnicity, they were absent from Palestine for over 1000 years....doing their best to thrive among Europeans who often thought of them as Christ killers. It would be very surprising if they hadn't acclimatized to European modes of thought....and let's not forget where modern Imperialism originated.

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From what I've read about survivors, they were likely nationalistic as the Israeli state emerged. Regarding Germany and Hitler, I know firsthand that Jewish people deeply care about human rights. They wouldn't condone Hitler's genocide of any group of people.

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Except that, the Zionist state of Israel is condoning exactly that. Perhaps we aren't hearing as much as we should about resistance to the carpet bombing....coming from Israeli citizens?

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Not only condone the genocide, but they are also an active part of it with the guns they send, and their support in the UN and everywhere else.

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I said survivors of the Holocaust, not present day Jews. You're confusing what I said about the past with now.

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You remind us that there are good men........and women, in every faith and ethnicity. Too often, the hate game is played against those you have the most in common with....I think its called 'projection'...........casting your shadow onto 'the other'.

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Not much to add. This madness needs to stop now. Contact your so-called representatives in Congress, go to demonstrations, boycott Israel-made products and services, stop paying taxes, do whatever you can. Stop the barbarism NOW. No justice, no peace.

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Dec 1, 2023·edited Dec 1, 2023

Well it seems the Nazi’s won after all. Like some twisted horror sci-fi plot, Nazi Germany transferred itself into what passes for the Israeli state. It is beyond sadness that many Jews apparently identified with their oppressors and have become just like them now. Instead of the Jews facing extermination in WWII, now the Jews are exterminating the Palestinians. I am a lover of dark comedy, but this war on Palestine is dark tragedy. And unlike Nazi Germany when the world fought against it, the world is giving Israel a free pass to commit genocide. And the country of my birth the oh so “exceptional” USA is the greatest contributor to such genocide. I detest my country and what it stands for. Death and destruction is what the USA does.

And regarding the “founding” of Israel which was nothing more than stealing Palestinian land, I have to ask, why the HELL didn’t Europe carve out a space among their nations to create the new Israel state. At least in that scenario Israel would not have been able to expand and eradicate an entire people while stealing their land. Instead we have an entire populace being subjected to the loss of their nation and genocide all thanks to Western Nations who never cared about the Palestinians.

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I suspect because the Zionists were already showing themselves to be a problem. I remember when Obama promised to close Guantanamo and then backed down. I was furious and my friend, who has a good grasp on these kinds of things said, "All those people in Guantanamo might not have gone in as terrorists but I guarantee they will come out as terrorists. THAT is what Obama is afraid of." The first Zionist Israelis were created in the bowels of those concentration camps and they have passed their psycho-emotional venom down to their progeny.

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The first Zionist Israelis were created long before World War II. This is described at length in several interviews lately with Finklestein, and Hedges, among others.

Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro provided an enlightening history in his interview with Katie Halper. Miko Peled emphasizes how the demographic profile of the classic Zionists is at odds with what most people are taught.

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And it seems that Christian Zionism was borne before the Jewish Zionism according to Bart Ehrman:

"....But American evangelicals are disproportionately in support of Israel. And the reason has to do with the Bible. It's because evangelicals have long read biblical prophecies as - indicating that Israel has to be established and strong before Jesus can return. Israel was destroyed in the second century C.E., and it hadn't been a nation. And so Christian Zionism, the idea that - Christians saying that Israel has to become a state again, that actually started before there was, you know, the Zionism we're all familiar with at the end of the 19th century and the early 20th century. And the Christian Zionists absolutely supported Jewish Zionists because they believed that the prophecy had to be fulfilled. Later, after 1948, which Christians continue to - evangelical Christians continue to see 1948, the establishment of Israel, as a fulfillment of prophecy."

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I wonder how Biden can think that he will get a 2nd term after this. I can't see it! All he had to do was condition aid, or stop the weapons from flowing. But that is the viciousness of capitalism.

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Another pandemic on the way perhaps? Bring out the mail in ballots!!

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He and his administration is too much in the pocket of the Israel Lobby. Time to pay for all those campaign contributions.

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All Israel stands to "win" is becoming a pariah ethnostate, like the "cleansed" parts of the former Yugoslavia. These are backwaters, almost empty of people, with no economy to speak of. Their descriptions and pictures remind me of the set of a post-nuclear war B movie. That is the main prize.

Secondary prizes are further loss of Israeli humanity, as evidenced by many, many online videos, where average Israelis happily relate to reporters that genocide is fantastic, and there can never be too much.

Chris is right that the war is just beginning. It will never end, only grow larger, and more hideous.

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Israel counts on the United States being its thug in perpetuity.

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The UN needs to send in peace keeping forces and occupy Gaza for as long as is necessary.

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1,200 Israelis killed on October 7. Each death a personal tragedy.

10,000 Palestinian women and children slaughtered in Gaza. A statistic.

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Contact Report 870

The Plejaren extraterrestrial Quetzal

Quetzal:

This Netanyahu is no better than Adolf Hitler was, as I have learnt from records of what happened around him during the World War from 1939 to 1945.

I also see that in the overall reporting of the war between Israel and Hamas, everything is held in the same manner as it is in the Ukraine war, namely that there is only one-sided and biased reporting.

With regard to Ukraine, only the entire actions of the Ukrainian army are publicised by the media, but not what is happening on the Russian side.

Similarly, in the Middle East, only Israel is reported on, but not the other side, which means that the media also takes sides here, and only in favour of Israel, which also rages much worse than the attackers.

I also saw how Israeli military personnel hid firearms etc. in a hospital, which they then allegedly found and had photographed by war journalists, with the untruthful claim that these weapons had been stored there by the other side.

And that atrocities were also committed by the Israeli army, as well as by the attackers, which you have observed together with me, so you know what is really happening.

And it continues to happen on a large scale, with the 'great leader' Netanyahu, as a paragon of Adolf Hitler, fuelling the whole thing in full hatred.

That is what corresponds to the truth.

https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_870

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There is no war 'between' Israel and Hamas. There is a war on Gaza. There is a war on the Palestinians. There may also be a war against Hamas, but there is no war between two nations, both having armies, navies, air forces and the like. Prepositions do matter.

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It is said that the victorious write the history. In the case of the European theater of WWII, that was not the case. The Germans, not the Russians described the tactics Russia supposedly employed to defeat Germany. This miswriting of history has hamstrung the West to this day.

Since for this massacre, there really will be no victor, I hope that history will not spare the neglect of the U.S. to use its considerable leverage over Israel to stop this genocide.

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Madness and cruelty beyond measure and comprehension.

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Palestinians need a home, and one that is NOT OCCUPIED by Israel. My thought is that Palestinians in Gaza should be relocated to the West Bank and Golan Heights and Israel should withdraw from there. A reformed Palestinian Authority should then have governance with aid until they are on their feet. Until the Palestinians have dignity, security and peace, they will never stop fighting against oppression...would you?

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There must be a permanent ceasefire, not under oppressive conditions, but to build a place where all live with peace and equality. Pope Francis is said to have called the bombing of Gaza 'terrorism.' It is time for Pope Francis to do more than talk. He must go to Gaza and make a stand for peace and freedom.

It is vital to change the current narrative that leads only to more death and destruction. Retribution cannot lead to life.

Please sign the petition and share widely.

https://chng.it/CRQ7qw4Gzn

This is one small thing we can do. If we can do more, let us do more.

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I don't know much of anything about Mister Fish, but he is one hell of a great illustrator!

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This is the mindset the imperial west supports.......to the tune of billions of dollars better spent fighting the climate crisis........and this is the lesson it hopes the entire world will learn: IT IS FUTILE TO OPPOSE US.

Trouble is, while it might be a hard slog standing up against American sanctioned violence, if there is to be a world left that is worth living in..........and a climate that will support that worthwhile life..........we all have to stand up against Israel war crimes AND the American Empire that supports them.

Because the very best scenario for an end of world outcome is just this.........brutal genocidal exterminations here, there and wherever an American ally sees fit, and a rapidly warming world, still running on fossil fuels......the price of which is kept artificially high by those same wars of extermination.

This is not just the way Palestine ends........this is the way the World Ends.

A lot of big bangs, and not very many voices raised or governments toppled.

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Apparently, there's untapped oil and gas off the Gazan coast...does that mean once Netanyahu has obliterated all semblance of Palestinian life, he will access this black gold? On another note: "Biden’s cabinet is already stacked with war-mongers like Lloyd Austin, who sat on the board of Raytheon, and Antony Blinken, the co-founder of the secretive firm WestExec Advisors, which serves clients linked to the military-industrial complex." (codepink Dec 1, 2023)Doesn't this suggest Blinken may have more than one iron in the fire to encourage the Israeli thug? Biden's embrace of this slaughter appalls and disgusts. It certainly takes on special meaning when it comes to electing a President. It will figure in my contemplations. He's brought shame upon us all by actively, openly feeding the Israeli thug a dark feast of guns and bombs - in our name to complete the massacre.

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