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W.F.Miloglav's avatar

What Israel truly deserves is the type of massive destruction by war famously visited on Germany in 1943-45 in response to that nation's analogous murderous rampage against neighbouring peoples.

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catfish rushdie's avatar

What we need are Nuremberg-style tribunals. I want to believe that this is inevitable, but I don't believe that any western nation has the will. If and when it happens, it will come from a BRICS member nation or nations. I hope I live to see it.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Then so does the UK and US for supporting them.

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Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

Not only "supporting them" but CREATING that Frankensteinian monster and deliberately arming it to the teeth for vast US/UK military industrial profits, land, resources and above all oil. This was and always has been an imperial colonial project.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Damn straight.

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Raymond Kalberg's avatar

As long as theTurnip keeps signing the cheques it ain't gonna happen.

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catfish rushdie's avatar

It might happen if those cheques are rendered non-negotiable, or when force majeure is applied by a nation or group of nations who are able to overpower the US. It's not so far-fetched as we are led to believe.

I believe that something of this nature is inevitable.

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Feral Finster's avatar

Look at US treasury prices. There is nothing signaling any kind of imminent catastrophe.

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catfish rushdie's avatar

Imminent, probably not. Inevitable? Everything in creation comes to an end, inevitably. We live in an environment in which central planners equate kicking the can down the road with eternal life.

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John Ressler's avatar

Be certain - It wouldn't happen under the inauthentic party either.

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X K's avatar
Apr 12Edited

I had previously made this comment on "The Last Chapter of the Genocide" back on March 22nd but thought it fitting to recall here:

I once naively held this now-forlorn hope, that If it should ever come about, a just peace for Palestine would require not only that the "state" of Israel be dismantled (for the sake not only of the Palestinians and other peoples in the region, but for humankind as a whole) and the land rightfully returned to its indigenous owners, but that the Zionists be compelled to develop (using their own money, not US aid) a site encompassing the entirety of their now-former capital of Tel Aviv to establish, akin to "The Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe" in Berlin, "The Memorial to the Murdered, Maimed, Orphaned, Displaced, and Dehumanized People of Palestine."

Along with its complacent defecation on all that is decent and human in civilized life, the legacy of Israel and Zionism is the diminishment to the point of near oblivion of any sense of justice and hope for the rest of us.

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Raymond Kalberg's avatar

With or without the U.S.

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Feral Finster's avatar

So what does anyone propose to do about it?

Moral arguments are wasted on sociopaths. Hell, Russia is regularly condemned, in spite of Russia bending over backwards to avoid civilian casualties, but no matter. For our pets, everything. For our enemies, the law.

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Whatistobedone's avatar

It's all over....so what would after-the-fact logic, reason, appeals to humanity change at this point? (Oops, that's GONE and was NEVER there... "human animals"?) I am beyond sickened. There aren't any words anymore...

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CityguyUSA's avatar

It's the Jews that in-breed yet they are calling names. This is dispicable behavior by our president Donald Jackass Trump he should be chased out of the US and tried for war crimes.

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Slightly Lucid's avatar

This was a bipartisan effort, apparently above the pay grade of either the Biden or Trump administrations.

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CityguyUSA's avatar

I don't care. Biden, Obama, Bush should be extradidited and tried as well. This extermination and others are not a belief of most Americans just proving the point that we never lived in a Republic becausae "they" are not doing our bidding.

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Fran's avatar

My mother was very political, an understatement, and a devout anti-Zionist and what did family whisper, anti-Semitic. Never heard her say a word against any group of people, all were equal, and I wish the Israeli's were the same, but they are not and never have been.

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Fran's avatar

How low do you go when you allow Netanyahu who can be jailed for his crimes head a nation and implement a genocide.

Gulf-backed genocide: How Arab monarchies fuel Israel’s war machine

https://thecradle.co/articles/gulf-backed-genocide-how-arab-monarchies-fuel-israels-war-machine

"The Persian Gulf states’ silence – and in many cases, complicity – during Israel’s ongoing war on Gaza has not come as a shock. These governments, long detached from the Palestinian struggle, have for years cultivated warm, if discreet, ties with Tel Aviv."

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CityguyUSA's avatar

If I had the ability I would go stand with them in Gaza.

Fill Gaza with Americans and then see what happens.

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PabloPablo's avatar

They would bomb them as well!

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CityguyUSA's avatar

That would be very insightful but then we'd know what to do when we returned home.

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John Ressler's avatar

If they were to return home. Most of us already know what to do (stop the genocide and allowing Israel to run our government) but our mis-leader shits do as they please and they are pleased to kill whomever and wherever they damn well choose.

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John Ressler's avatar

It wouldn't matter at all - we don't even allow US college students and soon regular citizens in the streets on occasion to protest the genocide project - I am not willing to be bombed, starved, killed by drone or any of the other ways that innocent people are murdered. Consider the war criminals from Israel freely come to the US and other EU countries to do whatever war criminals do when they leave home.

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Fran's avatar

Egypt deploys Patton, Abrams tanks in central Sinai, media reports claim

April 9, 2025 at 8:36 am

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250409-egypt-deploys-patton-abrams-tanks-in-central-sinai-media-reports-claim/

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Feral Finster's avatar

Keep in mind that the United States has numerous pressure points with regard to Egypt.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

DAWN has urged the ICC prosecutor to investigate and prosecute former President Biden, State Secretary Blinken and Defense Secretary Austin for their personal roles in aiding and abetting Israeli war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide in Gaza as part of his ongoing investigation into the situations in Palestine since 2014.

https://dawnmena.org/latest/

Let’s give them our support. Maybe they will expand their complaint to include this latest US administration, and include all the leaders of the western nations supporting this genocide.

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Paul Edwards's avatar

It is a terrible thing to hope for any war, but the one that must come to destroy the dirty, murderous Nazi non-state of Israel is devoutly to be wished, in spite of the collateral horrors it will bring. Israel must not be allowed to murder its way to its stupid, bullshit Torah fantasy.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Then the US and UK must not be allowed to carry on enabling it.

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Paul Edwards's avatar

Dead right! It is the U.S. Empire that funds the Zionist murder, and in that real sense, it is more at fault.

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Raymond Kalberg's avatar

The unholy trinity.

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Elizabeth Sellwood's avatar

It underscores the fact that those of us who believe we live in democracies do not. Those that get elected follow their own agendas, and those of individuals and organizations who have power, and money. Netanyahu is a vile human being, and nations that support his war on Gaza are complicit in this genocide. Most of us get to watch from the sidelines, sick and frustrated with this ongoing slaughter. A land grab of shocking proportion.

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Liana Chenoweth Kornfield's avatar

Yes to all you have said! But complicit is much too passive a word. This is a US/UK genocide. It could not happen without $$$$ billions and trillions worth of weapons of death and destruction to support the endless brutal US war economy. It's hard to bear, especially as an American, but just look at all the countries that have been decimated, raped and starved around the world in the last 75 plus years!

The US/UK et al planted European Zionists there on land that did not belong to them, armed them and gave them their Colonial marching orders and they brought up their children to become the mercenary state that they are, teaching/brainwashing them in the sickest possible way from pre-school age on that "Palestinians (all Arabs) are animals/Amalek" and then requiring them to be killers in the IDF. What they have done to their children is the worst kind of child abuse.

Thank you Mr. Fish for the perfect image: Frankenstein giving birth to his child of death. But so unspeakably horrific and heartbreaking for the Palestinians! I pray that this next stage never comes, for the Gazans and for all the Middle East, and for the miracle of miracles that Palestine Will Be Free!

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X K's avatar

A correction, if you will... Netanyahu, along with his accomplices, is not a human being, vile or otherwise. He is, though, a vile, depraved, barbaric life form of another sort altogether.

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W.F.Miloglav's avatar

Reptilian.

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X K's avatar
Apr 12Edited

Yes, that's more like it! Although I was thinking more along the lines of something bacterial, viral, fungal, mycoplasmal... you get the idea.

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W.F.Miloglav's avatar

Yes, yes, all those very good too, even better!

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Microsoft workers oppose ties with Israel.


Take action with us — and support the Microsoft workers organizing to cut the company’s ties with Israel’s military

https://act.mpowerchange.org/go/71588?t=3&akid=10199%2E809623%2EH7UcG5

Microsoft and other tech partners, like Google and Amazon, are helping redefine the ugly underbelly of U.S. technology’s use in war.

We’ve set up a digital action where you can send emails to Microsoft leadership, including AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman, with just a few clicks.

And, why not tell Google to stop weaponizing AI, and to cut ties with Israel.

https://actionnetwork.org/letters/tell-google-stop-using-your-ai-for-genocide-apartheid-and-border-violence?source=mc_GoogleNext_2025_04_10

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Deborah Ewing's avatar

The complicity of some governments and the complacency of most makes it seem like the genocide against Palestinians and the annihilation of Palestine is happening in a neighbouring galaxy 2 million light years away. US of Israel telling other countries ‘If there are any survivors of our ethnic cleansing, we will send them to you so we can have their land…’ This is planting seeds that will poison our children.

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SHIRLEY ELIZABETH BARNES's avatar

Not one word in the so-called "Free Press;" "Mainstream Media."

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

If the international institutions have any meaning, and it is questionable for how long, we cannot allow Israel to escape the legal consequences of their war crimes. The Hind Rajab Foundation has, among other things, filed a case with the ICC against 1,000 Israeli soldiers for war crimes in Gaza.

https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org/perpetrators/hind-rajab-foundation-files-historic-icc-complaint-against-1000-israeli-soldiers-for-war-crimes-in-gaza

They have taken further steps in recent days, and vacations are becoming a lot more difficult for IDF soldiers, worldwide. The Hind Rajab Foundation can use our help. Please join me in making a contribution.

https://buy.stripe.com/cN228hbY5g7jaM84gg

To know more about The Hind Rajab Foundation, you might find meaningful to watch the interviews that Glenn Greenwald did on his Rumble platform, and Ali Abunimah of the Electronic Intifada, did with the head of this organisation, Dyad Abou Jahjah. It was very informative.

Here's a petition calling for accountability for the arrest of Ali Abunimah in Switzerland for the crime of speaking about Palestinian rights::

https://chng.it/8D4pkxPhWS

Please sign the petition and share widely.

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JennyStokes's avatar

I did write some time back about what does the future hold in the event of the Palestinian genocide and displacement. I 100% agree with this editorial. What I think is also important is how are we going to FEEL. Morality has disappeared.

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Born on Jan 6's avatar

"One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This" Omar El-Akkad

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JennyStokes's avatar

Correct. 100%

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fav24's avatar

Thank you Chris, writing this thoroughly depressing piece, it could not have been easy.

But, I cannot see any other end game paths and results other than what you outline.

The psychopaths are on a killing spree and will not stop until stopped.

Thanks again for your tireless work, everything you do shows and teaches us so much more and how to decode and really see what is happening and who is behind it all.

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Xxxx Oooo's avatar

Thank you for this article. I have shared this with my friends in Gaza. They are beyond terrified. This isn't an abstract situation for them. I pray they survive, yet I am god-less and not an optimist. May they forgive us.

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Phoebe Love's avatar

I shared it with a friend in Gaza too. He said the resettlement will never happen because the people here (Gaza) would rather die. Also that he would never forgive those responsible. I told him I wouldn't either, although I am American. It's our regime that's responsible, and I want our regime to crumble and collapse like the roof of that nightclub in Santo Domingo. It needs to go. Yay tariffs! Yay whatever stupid shit Trump does to ruin the economy and therefore the empire. Nothing is worth this.

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Xxxx Oooo's avatar

I hear ya. I'm also hearing from some Palestinian friends that they want to leave, because there is nothing left for them. I hate that it is coming to this.

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Phoebe Love's avatar

And I hear YA and them! I think, as an American who barely knows any of her ancestors and whose family is fractured and scattered (and who lives in possibly the most profit-driven culture on the planet, according to various studies), when I put myself in their place, I'd want to GTFO ASAP. Basically like a lot of the Jews in WW2 Europe, because my connection to this land and culture is practically nil. I do love my city, St. Louis, but if the bombs and bulldozers came, I'd take 0.2 seconds to wave goodbye, then run. And I honestly secretly wish the Pals would take whatever lifeline is given them and live to fight another day, because I don't think Israel is going to stop until they have wiped everyone out. And then they'll overreach with their "greater Israel" freak show, and lose big, same as Hitler did, but it will be too late because they will have done the genocide FIRST. The only thing that could even conceivably throw a monkey wrench into the works is us cutting off the $. And I don't know how THAT is going to happen, unless Trump brings back the draft for a holy war because AIPAC/Mossad has the videos on him, and everyone just says no to the whole thing, and... yeah, I don't know. Any scenario I can dream up would still have to happen before everyone dies. Another Gaza fb friend (friends with the one I quoted above) who I started a gofundme for, last night or yesterday several of his family members died in a bombing. He posted their pix, they all look like him, and at some point, odds are, I'm going to find out he (and the first guy, Manar) are dead too.

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Joy in HK fiFP's avatar

Petition for the immediate release of Mahmoud Khalil.

https://actionnetwork.org/letters/demand-the-immediate-release-of-columbia-student-pro-palestine-advocate-mahmoud-khalil-from-dhs-detention

These are some of the legal organizations assisting Khalil in this vital matter:

Along with the ACLU, New Jersey, aclu-nj-joins-mahmoud-khalils-legal-team-following-case-transfer-district-new-jersey

"Mr. Khalil is also represented by Amy Greer from Dratel & Lewis, the Center for Constitutional Rights, https://ccrjustice.org

CLEAR, the New York Civil Liberties Union (NYCLU), https://www.nyclu.org

the American Civil Liberties Union, https://www.aclu.org

Van Der Hout LLP, and Alina Das, co-director of the Immigrant Rights Clinic at New York University (NYU) School of Law." I am sure some, or all these groups could use y/our support, and right now.

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Laura I Troutman's avatar

Will the expulsion of the Palestinians to the Sinai desert be the spark that finally ignites the Arab street? Forget tribunals. Organize! Solidarity has history. It's not just a slogan. It must be revived.

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Brian Tanguay's avatar

The die is cast. Israel cannot turn back. A regional war seems unavoidable.

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Jo Waller's avatar

Just like the US deep state (oil, animal ag, arms, banking, tech) want.

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